Extremely old and unmaintained code (more than 7 years). Since gtkglext has been depending on pangox (not maintained more than 7 years) which latest pango (1.44.x) breaking. Pangox repository declares that: "If you are still using pangox, well, really, get a life..." Also gtlglext developer responded to my email with words: " I was generally of the impression that GtkGLExt had been superseded by functionality present in modern GTK. " This is meta tracker for apps in main tree already depends on it. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. application/library requires gtkglext 2. try look for new version of application, which has no longer that dependency 3. bump application Actual Results: blocking update to x11-libs/pango-1.44.x for modern applications Expected Results: at the end, removal of x11-libs/gtkglext from gx86
Application depending on x11-libs/gtkglext at this moment: app-emulation/vice-3.1:gtk app-i18n/ibus-handwrite-2.1.4-r1 app-i18n/ibus-handwrite-3.0.0 app-office/upwork-5.2.3.771 dev-cpp/gtkglextmm-1.2.0-r2 dev-games/openscenegraph-3.5.5:examples+gtk dev-games/openscenegraph-3.6.3:examples+gtk dev-python/pygtkglext-1.1.0-r1 dev-scheme/gauche-gtk-0.6_pre1:opengl games-board/gnubg-1.05.000-r1:opengl games-emulation/desmume-0.9.11-r1 games-emulation/yabause-0.9.15:!qt5 games-strategy/gwp-0.4.0-r3:opengl games-strategy/ufoai-2.5.0_p20180603:editor media-libs/opencv-2.4.13-r3:gtk+opengl media-libs/opencv-3.4.1-r5:gtk+opengl media-libs/opencv-3.4.1-r6:gtk+opengl media-sound/glmix-0.3 media-sound/snd-17.4:gtk+opengl net-misc/anydesk-4.0.1-r1 net-misc/anydesk-5.0.0 net-misc/anydesk-5.1.2 sci-astronomy/celestia-1.6.1-r1:gnome sci-astronomy/celestia-1.6.1-r1:gtk+!gnome sci-astronomy/celestia-9999:gtk sci-chemistry/gabedit-2.4.6 sci-chemistry/gabedit-2.4.7 sci-chemistry/gabedit-2.4.8 sci-chemistry/ghemical-3.0.0 sci-electronics/pcb-0_p20140316:gtk sci-electronics/pcb-4.0.2:gtk sci-physics/lightspeed-1.2a-r3 sci-visualization/gfsview-20120706-r1 sci-visualization/gwyddion-2.44:opengl sci-visualization/gwyddion-2.47:opengl
app-emulation/vice-3.4 allegedly does not depend on gtkglext, ref: https://sourceforge.net/p/vice-emu/bugs/1181/
(In reply to DrSlony from comment #2) > app-emulation/vice-3.4 allegedly does not depend on gtkglext, ref: > https://sourceforge.net/p/vice-emu/bugs/1181/ This bug already depends on the according version bump request. No talking in trackers as usual, please.
There is nothing wrong with it. I use this myself. Please do not remove this. If there is an actual bug with this library lets discuss that and perhaps it's something I can patch.
(In reply to David Heidelberg (okias) from comment #0) > Extremely old and unmaintained code (more than 7 years). It still compiles and does the same thing it did 7 years ago. > Since gtkglext has been depending on pangox (not maintained more than 7 > years) which latest pango (1.44.x) breaking. Can you elaborate? point to a bug number? > Pangox repository declares that: > "If you are still using > pangox, well, really, get a life..." talking to people like this really does not help anything. I get that if the developer doesn't want to care about this anymore that's fine, but perhaps whatever issue we are having can be solved by a simple patch, or a fork. old projects like this are generally 'mature' or otherwise considered finished and only require small api changes for when other newer underlying libs come along or gets ported to a new major kernel version (which is not really a thing on Linux as Linux retains ABI very good). > Also gtlglext developer responded to my email with words: > " I was generally of the impression that GtkGLExt had been superseded by > functionality present in modern GTK. " The GNOME toolkit (gtk3) does not replace the Gimp toolkit for many needs. Especially as a generic *nix graphics toolkit. There are many issues that still need to be worked out with it and it's slower and more memory consuming that gtk2 for zero additional functionality when doing a direct port. It's theming engine is also still broken, leading to campaigns like this: https://linuxreviews.org/GNOME_Developers_have_Made_Their_Moves_against_Themes
(In reply to Thomas Groman from comment #5) > (In reply to David Heidelberg (okias) from comment #0) > > Extremely old and unmaintained code (more than 7 years). > > It still compiles and does the same thing it did 7 years ago. Yup, with right tools Linux 0.0.1 also compiles, but there is reason why people don't use it today. > > > Since gtkglext has been depending on pangox (not maintained more than 7 > > years) which latest pango (1.44.x) breaking. > > Can you elaborate? point to a bug number? Please Google it. > > > Pangox repository declares that: > > "If you are still using > > pangox, well, really, get a life..." > > talking to people like this really does not help anything. I get that if the > developer doesn't want to care about this anymore that's fine, but perhaps > whatever issue we are having can be solved by a simple patch, or a fork. old > projects like this are generally 'mature' or otherwise considered finished > and only require small api changes for when other newer underlying libs come > along or gets ported to a new major kernel version (which is not really a > thing on Linux as Linux retains ABI very good). > I agree, but since software is unsupported by their original developers, it's unlikely it will work correctly, due fact that Linux ecosystem is still developing, so it's not stuck at some point. > > Also gtlglext developer responded to my email with words: > > " I was generally of the impression that GtkGLExt had been superseded by > > functionality present in modern GTK. " > > The GNOME toolkit (gtk3) does not replace the Gimp toolkit for many needs. > Especially as a generic *nix graphics toolkit. https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/ yes, generally it does. it's true it took GTK3 really long to mature. > There are many issues that > still need to be worked out with it and it's slower and more memory > consuming that gtk2 for zero additional functionality when doing a direct You don't want use GTK2 these days, unless you run some ancient machine or/and old software... > port. It's theming engine is also still broken, leading to campaigns like > this: > https://linuxreviews.org/ > GNOME_Developers_have_Made_Their_Moves_against_Themes And also, GTK2 looks like s*it. And this campaigns more target distributions, which changes look & feel (also icons etc.) and then people goes complain to application authors instead of distributions... Also most of people grown up from theming desktop/mobile with cool themes instead of using just light/dark/black options... It's nice to have possibility thou, which GTK3 doesn't prevent.
gtkglext *will* be removed, the question is not if, but when. No talking in tracker bugs please.
> Please Google it. Oh, of course. thank you so much for your help. > > I agree, but since software is unsupported by their original developers, > it's unlikely it will work correctly, Ok, please clarify. This part is important. Are you saying software will get removed from the tree not because there's an issue, but because upstream says it's EOL? Not that there are no downstream maintainers, but simply because of an upstream decision? But as long as there is an upstream maintaining the software it's fine in the tree? > it's true it > took GTK3 really long to mature. GTK3 has still not reached maturity and you see this with glitchy scrollbars, conflicting styles, and extremely difficult to use filepicker. > > There are many issues that > > still need to be worked out with it and it's slower and more memory > > consuming that gtk2 for zero additional functionality when doing a direct > > You don't want use GTK2 these days, unless you run some ancient machine > or/and old software... Simply not true, and immediately disprovable with a few screenshots and code examples. > > port. It's theming engine is also still broken, leading to campaigns like > > this: > > https://linuxreviews.org/ > > GNOME_Developers_have_Made_Their_Moves_against_Themes > > And also, GTK2 looks like s*it. That's an opinion and a relative one at that. Not a fact. I've got a lot of opinions about GNOME3 and post RHEL6 RedHat software but this is not the place for it.
Please do not remove lightspeed. It works absolutely fine.
leio, please checkout PR and ack.
ping...
The bug has been referenced in the following commit(s): https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=d4572d0ed3af333fdfd9daae7d3fbfa9a8c24bf1 commit d4572d0ed3af333fdfd9daae7d3fbfa9a8c24bf1 Author: Andreas Sturmlechner <asturm@gentoo.org> AuthorDate: 2020-08-22 15:08:37 +0000 Commit: Andreas Sturmlechner <asturm@gentoo.org> CommitDate: 2020-09-27 17:51:39 +0000 x11-libs/gtkglext: Drop 1.2.0-r4 and package to unstable With ~arch net-misc/anydesk as the only revdep there is no need to put now even more modified version 1.2.0-r5 to stable. Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/698950 Package-Manager: Portage-3.0.4, Repoman-3.0.1 Signed-off-by: Andreas Sturmlechner <asturm@gentoo.org> x11-libs/gtkglext/gtkglext-1.2.0-r4.ebuild | 59 ------------------------------ 1 file changed, 59 deletions(-) https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=84993a1f3cb3db508333620a7af68da09510bdfd commit 84993a1f3cb3db508333620a7af68da09510bdfd Author: Andreas Sturmlechner <asturm@gentoo.org> AuthorDate: 2020-08-22 15:04:38 +0000 Commit: Andreas Sturmlechner <asturm@gentoo.org> CommitDate: 2020-09-27 17:51:38 +0000 x11-libs/gtkglext: Drop x11-libs/pangox-compat dependency Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/698950 Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/706344 Package-Manager: Portage-3.0.4, Repoman-3.0.1 Signed-off-by: Andreas Sturmlechner <asturm@gentoo.org> .../gtkglext/files/gtkglext-1.2.0-no-pangox.patch | 184 +++++++++++++++++++++ x11-libs/gtkglext/gtkglext-1.2.0-r5.ebuild | 62 +++++++ 2 files changed, 246 insertions(+)
No longer blocking bug 698922.
The bug has been referenced in the following commit(s): https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=6dc592ed11d486955377c839c86855185667a75e commit 6dc592ed11d486955377c839c86855185667a75e Author: Matthew Smith <matthew@gentoo.org> AuthorDate: 2022-08-26 16:07:04 +0000 Commit: Matthew Smith <matthew@gentoo.org> CommitDate: 2022-08-26 16:07:04 +0000 profiles: mask x11-libs/gtkglext for removal Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/698950 Signed-off-by: Matthew Smith <matthew@gentoo.org> profiles/package.mask | 5 +++++ 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)
Finally!
Please stop to remove gtkglext, rollback from masking. because net-misc/anydesk does not work without this package. I have test anydesk and i have experience to get an error message 'double free or corruption (fasttop)' without this package.
of course I have test on anydesk-6.2.0
(In reply to Seong-ho Cho from comment #16) > Please stop to remove gtkglext, rollback from masking. > > because net-misc/anydesk does not work without this package. > > I have test anydesk and i have experience to get an error message > > 'double free or corruption (fasttop)' without this package. Please file a new bug for this issue.
(In reply to Sam James from comment #18) > (In reply to Seong-ho Cho from comment #16) > > Please stop to remove gtkglext, rollback from masking. > > > > because net-misc/anydesk does not work without this package. > > > > I have test anydesk and i have experience to get an error message > > > > 'double free or corruption (fasttop)' without this package. > > Please file a new bug for this issue. I created https://bugs.gentoo.org/868255 please consider it as blocking the removal.
The bug has been referenced in the following commit(s): https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=7de7c7112894b77e08d5cbad7f364472b8fbcf55 commit 7de7c7112894b77e08d5cbad7f364472b8fbcf55 Author: Matthew Smith <matthew@gentoo.org> AuthorDate: 2022-09-06 11:33:09 +0000 Commit: Matthew Smith <matthew@gentoo.org> CommitDate: 2022-09-06 11:36:38 +0000 Revert "profiles: mask x11-libs/gtkglext for removal" This reverts commit 6dc592ed11d486955377c839c86855185667a75e. It is still a dependency of net-misc/anydesk. Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/698950 Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/868255 Signed-off-by: Matthew Smith <matthew@gentoo.org> profiles/package.mask | 5 ----- 1 file changed, 5 deletions(-)
