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Bug 89521 - alsa configuration guide is unclear on the use of alsa-driver vs. in-kernel drivers
Summary: alsa configuration guide is unclear on the use of alsa-driver vs. in-kernel d...
Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 92622
Alias: None
Product: [OLD] Docs-user
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Alsa Configuration Guide (show other bugs)
Hardware: All All
: High normal (vote)
Assignee: Docs Team
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Reported: 2005-04-18 06:17 UTC by Jonathan Smith (RETIRED)
Modified: 2005-07-17 13:06 UTC (History)
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Attachments
alsa-guide.xml.diff (alsa-guide.xml.diff,1.88 KB, patch)
2005-04-18 06:34 UTC, Jonathan Smith (RETIRED)
Details | Diff
alsa-guide.xml.diff (alsa-guide.xml.diff,1.59 KB, patch)
2005-04-18 06:59 UTC, Jonathan Smith (RETIRED)
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Description Jonathan Smith (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2005-04-18 06:17:45 UTC
this is from the doc-team mailing list. i will post a patch to alsa-guide just as soon as i can get it written (<30 min hopefully)
Comment 1 Jonathan Smith (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2005-04-18 06:34:55 UTC
Created attachment 56572 [details, diff]
alsa-guide.xml.diff

diffnut'd

this _should_ resolve all the issues on the mailing list, i am posting this bug
there just in case it doesn't
Comment 2 Jonathan Smith (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2005-04-18 06:59:47 UTC
Created attachment 56574 [details, diff]
alsa-guide.xml.diff

...ever so slightly modified...
Comment 3 Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2005-04-21 06:57:33 UTC
Jonathan: the result is like this:

"""
<warn>
If you are using <c>genkernel</c>, you do not have the following choice. Please
continue with the portage version of ALSA.
</warn>
 
<note>
If you use a 2.6 kernel, as is now the default for most people, you may use the
drivers provided in the kernel, or you can use the portage package
media-sound/alsa-driver. The benifit of using in-kernel drivers is that you do
not have to re-emerge a package every time you update your kernel, whereas many
people consider using portage to be simpler than mucking through pages and
pages of menuconfig. If you want to use the drivers provided with your kernel,
you can skip the rest of this section and continue with <uri
link="#alsa-utils">Installing the ALSA Utils</uri>.
</note>
"""

I think that:

1. It is better to have the warning after the note, as the warning refers to it (better to refer to something that's already read than something to be read and then return to the warning
2. The sentence "whereas many people consider using portage to be simpler than mucking through pages and pages of menuconfig." doesn't read right imo. What does it mean and why is it placed there?
3. Why use a <note>? A regular paragraph is perfectly fine here...
Comment 4 Shyam Mani (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2005-04-21 09:55:42 UTC
I agree with Sven here and also propose that we add a small code example right there for people who *want* to configure ALSA in the kernel as well. Its not too much...what say?

I could write up a patch for it.

PS : I'm all for kernel ALSA :p
Comment 5 Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2005-04-21 11:06:51 UTC
I'd say the guide needs an overhaul :p
Comment 6 Jonathan Smith (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2005-04-21 11:24:05 UTC
its all yours, Mani
Comment 7 Shyam Mani (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2005-04-21 11:41:05 UTC
Righto. Thanks!
Comment 8 Dmitri Pogosian 2005-05-13 07:39:23 UTC
Periodically, the situation is that kernel drivers are older/different version
that what alsa-driver provides. One related issue with documentation that I have encountered, is that it is not explained how to determine the version of the
ALSA drivers in kernel (at least I did not find this information)
Comment 9 Shyam Mani (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2005-05-13 08:06:37 UTC
cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.8 (Thu Jan 13 09:39:32 2005 UTC).

Thanks for asking :) I'm re-writing this doc and will add this little tidbit there as well.

PS : I'm using Kernel ALSA
Comment 10 Shyam Mani (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2005-05-15 08:44:51 UTC
Bug 92622 for further info on this.

Thanks.
Comment 11 Jonathan Smith (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2005-05-17 07:07:08 UTC
resolving as dup to eliminate confusion (even though this bug was filed first...)

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 92622 ***