Services using "provide net" are starting allthough there is no service depending on them via "need net" (e.g. NetworkManager). This is extreme bothersome because it constantly tries changing the config. >>> active services (rc-update) Note: syslog-ng does not "need net" -> conditional script acpid | default alsasound | boot bootmisc | boot consolefont | boot devfs | sysinit dmesg | sysinit fsck | boot hdparm | default hibernate-cleanup | boot hostname | boot hwclock | boot keymaps | boot killprocs | shutdown local | default nonetwork localmount | boot modules | boot mount-ro | shutdown mtab | boot net.lo | boot netmount | default procfs | boot root | boot savecache | shutdown swap | boot swapfiles | boot sysctl | boot sysfs | sysinit syslog-ng | default termencoding | boot tmpfiles.setup | boot udev | sysinit udev-mount | sysinit udev-postmount | default urandom | boot vixie-cron | default >>> runlevel-status Runlevel: single Runlevel: nonetwork local [ started ] Runlevel: default hdparm [ started ] syslog-ng [ started ] acpid [ started ] netmount [ started ] udev-postmount [ started ] vixie-cron [ started ] local [ started ] Runlevel: boot hwclock [ started ] modules [ started ] fsck [ started ] root [ started ] mtab [ started ] hibernate-cleanup [ started ] swap [ started ] localmount [ started ] urandom [ started ] sysctl [ started ] bootmisc [ started ] net.lo [ started ] termencoding [ started ] keymaps [ started ] hostname [ started ] consolefont [ started ] alsasound [ started ] procfs [ started ] swapfiles [ started ] tmpfiles.setup [ started ] Runlevel: sysinit sysfs [ started ] udev-mount [ started ] devfs [ started ] dmesg [ started ] udev [ started ] Runlevel: shutdown savecache [ stopped ] killprocs [ stopped ] mount-ro [ stopped ] Dynamic Runlevel: hotplugged Dynamic Runlevel: needed NetworkManager [ started ] >>> content of rc.log rc shutdown logging started at Thu Dec 13 20:29:04 2012 * Caching service dependencies ... [ ok ] * Stopping local [ ok ] * Stopping vixie-cron ... [ ok ] * Saving random seed ... [ ok ] * Deactivating additional swap space ... [ ok ] * Unmounting network filesystems ... [ ok ] * Bringing down interface lo * Storing ALSA Mixer Levels ... [ ok ] * Stopping acpid ... [ ok ] * Stopping syslog-ng ... [ ok ] * Stopping NetworkManager ... [ ok ] * Stopping D-BUS system messagebus ... [ ok ] * Unmounting loop devices * Unmounting filesystems * Deactivating swap devices ... [ ok ] * Use of the opts variable is deprecated and will be * removed in the future. * Please use extra_commands, extra_started_commands or extra_stopped_commands. * Stopping udev ... [ ok ] * Setting hardware clock using the system clock [Local Time] ... [ ok ] rc shutdown logging stopped at Thu Dec 13 20:29:10 2012 rc shutdown logging started at Thu Dec 13 20:29:04 2012 * Caching service dependencies ... [ ok ] * Stopping local [ ok ] * Stopping vixie-cron ... [ ok ] * Saving random seed ... [ ok ] * Deactivating additional swap space ... [ ok ] * Unmounting network filesystems ... [ ok ] * Bringing down interface lo * Storing ALSA Mixer Levels ... [ ok ] * Stopping acpid ... [ ok ] * Stopping syslog-ng ... [ ok ] * Stopping NetworkManager ... [ ok ] * Stopping D-BUS system messagebus ... [ ok ] * Unmounting loop devices * Unmounting filesystems * Deactivating swap devices ... [ ok ] * Use of the opts variable is deprecated and will be * removed in the future. * Please use extra_commands, extra_started_commands or extra_stopped_commands. * Stopping udev ... [ ok ] * Setting hardware clock using the system clock [Local Time] ... [ ok ] rc shutdown logging stopped at Thu Dec 13 20:29:10 2012 rc boot logging started at Thu Dec 13 21:29:36 2012 * Setting system clock using the hardware clock [Local Time] ... [ ok ] * Autoloaded 0 module(s) * Checking local filesystems ... /dev/sda3: clean, 1518305/4857856 files, 8337702/19424000 blocks /dev/sda1: clean, 39/14056 files, 35024/51200 blocks [ ok ] * Remounting root filesystem read/write ... [ ok ] * Remounting filesystems ... [ ok ] * Updating /etc/mtab ... [ ok ] * Use of the opts variable is deprecated and will be * removed in the future. * Please use extra_commands, extra_started_commands or extra_stopped_commands. * Invalidating stale software suspend images ... [ ok ] * Activating swap devices ... [ ok ] * Mounting local filesystems ... [ ok ] * Configuring kernel parameters ... [ ok ] * Creating user login records ... [ ok ] * Cleaning /var/run ... [ ok ] * Wiping /tmp directory ... [ ok ] * Restoring Mixer Levels ... [ ok ] * Setting terminal encoding [UTF-8] ... [ ok ] * Setting console font [default8x16] ... [ ok ] * Setting hostname to loriot ... [ ok ] * Setting keyboard mode [UTF-8] ... [ ok ] * Loading key mappings [de-latin1] ... [ ok ] * Bringing up interface lo * 127.0.0.1/8 ... [ ok ] * Adding routes * 127.0.0.0/8 via 127.0.0.1 ... [ ok ] * Mounting misc binary format filesystem ... [ ok ] * Loading custom binary format handlers ... [ ok ] * Activating additional swap space ... [ ok ] * setting up tmpfiles.d entries ... [ ok ] * Initializing random number generator ... [ ok ] rc boot logging stopped at Thu Dec 13 20:29:40 2012 rc default logging started at Thu Dec 13 20:29:40 2012 * Starting syslog-ng ... [ ok ] * Starting acpid ... [ ok ] * Starting D-BUS system messagebus ... [ ok ] * Starting NetworkManager ... [ ok ] Connecting 1sConnecting............... * Marking NetworkManager as inactive. It will automatically be marked * as started after a network connection has been established. * WARNING: NetworkManager has started, but is inactive * WARNING: netmount is scheduled to start when NetworkManager has started * Doing udev cleanups * Starting vixie-cron ... [ ok ] * Starting local WARNING: The state match is obsolete. Use conntrack instead. [ ok ] rc default logging stopped at Thu Dec 13 20:29:43 2012 One small note at the end: Even there are services which "could need a network-connection"..who says that one really needs it? Do I need a network-connection if i test my webserver (nginx) on localhost / if i open my firebird to read my mails OFFLINE / if I'm using a custom configurtion set by a shell-script NOT using Networkmanager? Please think about removing "need net" again. For whatever reason there may be for it..the must be a better way. Gentoo means opt-in not opt-out, I don't want to remove all the things I don't like but ADD the ones I like. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. startup your Gentoo System with Networkmanager installed without active services with dependencies to it (no active "need net"-services) 2. watch the Networkmanager start, too Actual Results: Networkmanager starts without any visible dependency. Expected Results: Networkmanager stays down.
*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 439092 ***
(In reply to comment #1) > > *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 439092 *** I don't really think this is a duplicate because it's not clear what is triggering NetworkManager to start. It's starting ALLTOUGH there is no service active with "need net".
