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Bug 434410 - sys-apps/openrc: the hwclock service should always set the kernel timezone
Summary: sys-apps/openrc: the hwclock service should always set the kernel timezone
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Hosted Projects
Classification: Unclassified
Component: OpenRC (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: Normal normal (vote)
Assignee: OpenRC Team
: 496024 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks: 481182
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Reported: 2012-09-09 09:15 UTC by labor_ratte
Modified: 2014-07-24 23:34 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Description labor_ratte 2012-09-09 09:15:54 UTC
After installing util-linux-2.22 and rebooting, the system showed me the UTC time instead of the timezoned one. Additionally, the system is configured to clock_systohc="YES", so it thinks the wrongly displayed time is the local time, and sets the UTC time to -2 hours (timezone Europe/Berlin). So with every reboot, it goes from 10:00 to 08:00 to 06:00. Back to the future, yeah...

The link is the same bug I found for ArchLinux while googling for it.
So, here is the commit, which seems to have to do something with this matter:;a=commit;h=839be2ba6b44fa9dc927f081d547ebadec9de19c

Maybe we need to adapt the /etc/init.d/hwclock script.

Reproducible: Always
Comment 1 labor_ratte 2012-09-09 09:16:32 UTC
emerge --info
Portage 2.2.0_alpha124 (default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop/gnome, gcc-4.7.1, glibc-2.16.0, 3.6.0-rc4 x86_64)
System uname: Linux-3.6.0-rc4-x86_64-AMD_Athlon-tm-_X2_Dual_Core_Processor_BE-2400-with-gentoo-2.2
Timestamp of tree: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 07:00:01 +0000
app-shells/bash:          4.2_p37
dev-java/java-config:     2.1.12
dev-lang/python:          2.7.3-r2
dev-util/cmake:           2.8.9
dev-util/pkgconfig:       0.27.1
sys-apps/baselayout:      2.2
sys-apps/openrc:          0.10.5
sys-apps/sandbox:         2.6
sys-devel/autoconf:       2.13, 2.69
sys-devel/automake:       1.9.6-r3, 1.11.6, 1.12.3
sys-devel/binutils:       2.22.90
sys-devel/gcc:            4.7.1
sys-devel/gcc-config:     1.7.3
sys-devel/libtool:        2.4.2
sys-devel/make:           3.82-r3
sys-kernel/linux-headers: 3.5 (virtual/os-headers)
sys-libs/glibc:           2.16.0
Repositories: gentoo local
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CFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/share/gnupg/qualified.txt"
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CXXFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe"
FCFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
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FFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed"
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Comment 2 SpanKY gentoo-dev 2012-09-16 01:09:11 UTC
hwclock is behaving correctly (see upstream URL).  whether we need to adjust openrc's hwclock init.d script, i don't know -- nothing should be running hwclock before the init.d afaik.  the description here needs a bit more detail.
Comment 3 Diego Elio Pettenò (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2012-09-16 16:23:08 UTC
I would propose moving the hwclock script to util-linux myself...
Comment 4 SpanKY gentoo-dev 2012-09-16 20:56:36 UTC
(In reply to comment #3)

that wouldn't help, nor really make sense.  util-linux isn't the only package that provides `hwclock`.
Comment 5 Boney McCracker 2012-09-22 20:42:57 UTC
I have the same problem, but pursued a different troubleshooting path, assuming that the kernel itself was carrying out the erroneous system time setting at boot (as a result of CONFIG_RTC_HCTOSYS=y), which I believe is the case.

Behavior is normal with the following:
util-linux-2.22 installed
/etc/conf.d/hwclock variable clock="UTC" and the rest defaults

In that scenario, system time is not set at boot by the kernel, but by openrc, and everything works as it did before.

Also,  I notice this passage in the man page for settimeofday(), which strikes me as identical to the problem here:

"Under  Linux  there are some peculiar "warp clock" semantics associated with the settimeofday() system call if on the very first call (after booting) that has a non-NULL tz argument, the tv argument is NULL and the tz_minuteswest field is nonzero.  (The tz_dsttime field should be zero for this case.)  In such a case it is assumed that the CMOS clock is  on  local time, and that it has to be incremented by this amount to get UTC system time.  No doubt it is a bad idea to use this feature."

It seems to me that this is exactly what appears to be happening here.  On systems with CMOS clock aligned to UTC and CONFIG_RTC_HCTOSYS=y, the kernel is assuming that the CMOS clock is aligned to local time.

Therefore, the problem might be that we are providing the kernel with a non-NULL tz argument.  The same man page indicates that use of tz is obsolete.

I hope this is not just adding to confusion.
Comment 6 Boney McCracker 2012-09-22 20:47:30 UTC
CORRECTION to comment #5

Behavior is normal with the following:
util-linux-2.22 installed
/etc/conf.d/hwclock variable clock="UTC" and the rest defaults
CONFIG_RTC_HCTOSYS=n    <--- omitted that
Comment 7 Boney McCracker 2012-09-22 21:16:55 UTC
Okay, apparently it's not CONFIG_RTC_HCTOSYS.  With or without it enabled, something is erroneously setting system time (and apparently doing so after CONFIG_RTC_HCTOSYS does it's thing).

However, if /etc/conf.d/hwclock is not set to "NO", openrc then corrects the problem (apparently by invoking the equivalent of 'hwclock -s').

I still think the behavior sounds like the problem described in the man page, as I quoted above.
Comment 8 SpanKY gentoo-dev 2012-10-09 04:42:13 UTC
(In reply to comment #7)

you mean you set clock_hctosys=yes ?
Comment 9 Boney McCracker 2012-11-20 18:45:44 UTC
(In reply to comment #8)
> (In reply to comment #7)
> you mean you set clock_hctosys=yes ?
I mean OpenRC seems to correct whatever is erroneously setting the system clock, because OpenRC defaults to
unless, in /etc/conf.d/hwclock, one uncomments:
which effectively changes the variable to:
which apparently prevents OpenRC from correcting whatever is erroneously setting the system clock.

The bottom line is that, as things stand, this part of the config file is not true.
# However, you can set this to "NO" ifyou are running a modern kernel
# with CONFIG_RTC_HCTOSYS set to y and your hardware clock set to UTC.
If one does what is suggested, one's system time will be wrong.
Comment 10 Teika kazura 2013-01-26 10:58:47 UTC
I second the "bottom line" just above, that you can, and indeed for at least some cases are advised to, set clock_hctosys="no" even if your rtc is in the local time. I also add a point: although /etc/init.d/hwclock is not called after resuming from s2ram or s2disk, the clock is set correctly without ntp. I don't understand the picture well, so I'd rather describe my entire situation than omitting some.

My rtc is in the local timezone, and I set CONFIG_RTC_HCTOSYS=y.

I used to have clock_hctosys="NO" until openrc is upgraded from to 0.11.6. Then I commented out the option following the conf.d doc, and booted at least twice successfully after that. Then came my symptom: /etc/init.d/hwclock failed, emitting the message:
  select() to /dev/rtc to wait for clock tick timed out
Then the Linux clock is 9 hours ahead the correct time. (My timezone is +0900.) It persists after several shutdowns. Setting clock_hctosys="no" fixes the problem.

(Althouh it's not the point here, the hardware may be buggy. I've shutdown my Gentoo several times since then, but /etc/conf.d/hwclock continues to fail if I comment out "clock_hctosys". Booting MS Win possibly triggered it. I rarely use Windows on this PC.)

BTW: I propose to add a line to init.d/hwclock: "# hwclock is provided
by several packages, so this script is in openrc." It doesn't harm,
and it'll reduce people's doubt which can be avoided.

BTW2: The kernel doc may need fix, too. The description of RTC_HCTOSYS_DEVICE says "This device should record time in UTC". (I don't understand well man (2) settimeofday, though.)

Comment 11 Teika kazura 2013-06-15 05:11:31 UTC
I opened a kernel bugzilla entry [1] a couple of months ago asking a doc fix, but there has not been any response. Could anyone push it a bit?

Comment 12 Boney McCracker 2013-08-15 01:02:03 UTC
How is this "unconfirmed" when there's a confirming comment right in the bug?
Comment 13 William Hubbs gentoo-dev 2014-07-24 22:29:55 UTC
*** Bug 496024 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 14 William Hubbs gentoo-dev 2014-07-24 23:34:36 UTC
The issue in this bug was that the hwclock service script did not always
set the kernel's time zone.

This has been fixed in commit e3bfb68 and will be included in