Well, I've this file: tfoerste@n22 ~/Downloads $ ls -l M* -rwxr-xr-x 1 tfoerste users 2537115836 Oct 21 00:05 Meeresfrüchte.m2t If I however run the command "watch -n 60 ls -l M*", the outout is : Every 60.0s: ls -l MeeresfrM CM-<chte.m2t Fri Oct 28 11:22:27 2011 -rwxr-xr-x 1 tfoerste users 2537115836 Oct 21 00:05 Meeresfrchte.m2t A simple "watch ls -l" gives the same output (the "ü" is missing), therefore both ls and watch are affected, isn't it ? Reproducible: Always tfoerste@n22 ~/Downloads $ locale -a C de_DE de_DE@euro de_DE.iso88591 de_DE.iso885915@euro de_DE.utf8 de_DE.utf8@euro deutsch en_US en_US.iso88591 en_US.iso885915 en_US.utf8 german POSIX tfoerste@n22 ~/Downloads $ env | grep LANG LANG=en_US.utf8 LANGUAGE= tfoerste@n22 ~/Downloads $ emerge --info sys-apps/coreutils Portage 2.1.10.31 (default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop/kde, gcc-4.5.3, glibc-2.12.2-r0, 3.0.8 i686) ================================================================= System Settings ================================================================= System uname: Linux-3.0.8-i686-Intel-R-_Core-TM-2_Duo_CPU_P8600_@_2.40GHz-with-gentoo-2.0.3 Timestamp of tree: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 06:45:01 +0000 ccache version 2.4 [enabled] app-shells/bash: 4.1_p9 dev-java/java-config: 2.1.11-r3 dev-lang/python: 2.7.2-r3, 3.1.4-r3 dev-util/ccache: 2.4-r9 dev-util/cmake: 2.8.4-r1 dev-util/pkgconfig: 0.26 sys-apps/baselayout: 2.0.3 sys-apps/openrc: 0.8.3-r1::toralf sys-apps/sandbox: 2.4 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.68 sys-devel/automake: 1.9.6-r3, 1.10.3, 1.11.1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.20.1-r1 sys-devel/gcc: 4.5.3-r1 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.1-r1 sys-devel/libtool: 2.4-r1 sys-devel/make: 3.82-r1 sys-kernel/linux-headers: 2.6.39 (virtual/os-headers) sys-libs/glibc: 2.12.2 Repositories: gentoo betagarden toralf ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86" ACCEPT_LICENSE="*" CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CFLAGS="-O2 -march=native -pipe" CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/share/config /usr/share/gnupg/qualified.txt" CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/gentoo-release /etc/php/apache2-php5.3/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5.3/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php5.3/ext-active/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=native -pipe" DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles" EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--autounmask=n" FEATURES="assume-digests binpkg-logs ccache compress-build-logs distlocks ebuild-locks 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The entire output of locale (without -a option) might be of help, too.
(In reply to comment #1) > The entire output of > > locale > > (without -a option) might be of help, too. Actually, more helpful would be following: - filesystem type and mount options of ~/Downloads - 'LANG=C ls -b M*' of ~/Downloads There' also a chance, that the terminal you're using is misconfigured.
(In reply to comment #2) > (In reply to comment #1) > > The entire output of > > > > locale tfoerste@n22 ~ $ locale LANG=en_US.utf8 LC_CTYPE="en_US.utf8" LC_NUMERIC="en_US.utf8" LC_TIME="en_US.utf8" LC_COLLATE="en_US.utf8" LC_MONETARY="en_US.utf8" LC_MESSAGES="en_US.utf8" LC_PAPER="en_US.utf8" LC_NAME="en_US.utf8" LC_ADDRESS="en_US.utf8" LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.utf8" LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.utf8" LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.utf8" LC_ALL= > > (without -a option) might be of help, too. > > Actually, more helpful would be following: > - filesystem type and mount options of ~/Downloads tfoerste@n22 ~ $ ls -ld Downloads lrwxrwxrwx 1 tfoerste users 16 Oct 12 21:06 Downloads -> /mnt/E/download/ tfoerste@n22 ~ $ mount | grep E /dev/sda2 on /mnt/E type fuseblk (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096,default_permissions) but I've a similar problem with my $HOME directory which is ext3 tfoerste@n22 ~ $ export LANG=de_DE.utf8 tfoerste@n22 ~ $ ls -l m* -rw-r----- 1 tfoerste users 0 Okt 28 18:09 mähmöhmüh tfoerste@n22 ~ $ export LANG=C tfoerste@n22 ~ $ ls -l m* -rw-r----- 1 tfoerste users 0 Oct 28 18:09 m??hm??hm??h and this is the output of "watch -n 60 ls -l m*": Every 60.0s: ls -l mähmöhmüh Fri Oct 28 18:15:24 2011 -rw-r----- 1 tfoerste users 0 Oct 28 18:09 mhmhmh > There' also a chance, that the terminal you're using is misconfigured. I'm using KOnsole
It was "ls -b", not "ls -l", but it does seem that the names are utf-8. Also, fuseblk is a bit meaningless - I was asking about the actual filesystem type. Try 'ls -l > output' in your own locale, then open it in any gtk+/qt editor - if it's displayed correctly, the problem lies in your terminal config.
(In reply to comment #4) > It was "ls -b", not "ls -l", but it does seem that the names are utf-8. > Also, fuseblk is a bit meaningless - I was asking about the actual filesystem > type. > > Try 'ls -l > output' in your own locale, then open it in any gtk+/qt editor - > if it's displayed correctly, the problem lies in your terminal config. This works : tfoerste@n22 ~ $ echo $LANG en_US.utf8 tfoerste@n22 ~ $ ls -b ~/Downloads/M* /home/tfoerste/Downloads/Meeresfrüchte.m2t but as soon as I put that command into watch I get the output above. BTW the redirection into a file and opening it with an editor (Kate) works fine and give reasonable results.
Well, at least it means it's not a matter of fonts. 'LANG=C ls -b' would only matter as that would have printed anything outside of ascii as octal escapes. If it's an utf-8 locale, it shouldn't have mattered. IIRC (but I don't use KDE), KDE uses a var or two more than just LANG/LC_*, but I don't recall details.
*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 291613 ***
