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Bug 26903 - Replace fdisk with cfdisk in the guide.
Summary: Replace fdisk with cfdisk in the guide.
Alias: None
Product: [OLD] Docs-user
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Gentoo Linux x86 Installation Guide (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: High normal (vote)
Assignee: Docs Team
: 124397 129555 148076 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Reported: 2003-08-19 01:04 UTC by Sergey Kuleshov (RETIRED)
Modified: 2006-09-18 08:43 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Description Sergey Kuleshov (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-08-19 01:04:54 UTC
The current Instalation Guide is fetauring the fdisk as a tool for partitioning
hard drive. I propose to change that to cfdisk. Here are my arguments.

While fdisk is a great and very powerful tool it is quite confusing for newbies
(and not only them) to use. Being a command based tool it requires you to
rememeber keys for various operations and also you have to remember your hard
drive layout. 

cfdisk, on the other hand, is also very powerful, but is *much* easier to use.
You are able to see all you partitions staright away after you load it and all
the required operations are presented with buttons on the bottom of the screen. 

For a new user, who probably never partitioned hard disk before it would be much
easier to use cfdisk, as it provides an interface everyone is used to - choose
item and select action. Also there is a much smaller chance of missing something
and removing wrong partition. 

As a final argument, I'd say that replacing fdisk with cfdisk would make the
partitioning section of the guide smaller and less scary to novice users.

Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
Comment 1 Jon Portnoy (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-08-19 01:17:32 UTC
See my -dev post for my comments on this.
Comment 2 Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-08-19 06:56:55 UTC
For the interested, discussion can be followed online on 
Comment 3 SpanKY gentoo-dev 2003-08-19 15:22:05 UTC
not mentioned on gentoo-dev, but i like cfdisk because (oh no!) it looks like the 
ms fdisk guy ... 
it *is* a lot easier to use, fdisk confused the hell out of me ;) 
Comment 4 Alvaro Figueroa (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-08-20 16:04:27 UTC
There isn't a cfdisk that can handle Sun labels (needed to boot a disk on any Sun box), and I think that the same thing could happen for other archs a well.

I prefer to have a similarity on the install docs of the diferent archs, than to have a not so good GUI.
Comment 5 Lars Weiler (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-08-20 18:07:56 UTC
On a PPC (Macs) we have only mac-fdisk and parted (yeah, it can handle HFS+ partitons now!).  mac-fdisk is like fdisk, but with special commands for the special Apple partitions, that need to be generated.

The idea of a "common" partitioning tool wouldn't become true.  The only tool that works on quite every system is parted.  It also has the ability to shrink partitions and make space for Gentoo Linux.  But as far as I see it is still a bit unstable...

That's the reason why every arch supports another partitioning tool.  And for me it's okay we support fdisk as it is well described and does it's job.
Comment 6 Jon Portnoy (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-08-20 18:31:56 UTC
With our extremely verbose instructions, most people are able to use it successfully. It's an important skill for advanced users to have.

In over a year of helping out on #gentoo, I've noticed that people who have issues with figuring out fdisk while following the install guide are _very_ rare.
Comment 7 Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-08-26 08:56:18 UTC
With the end of the fdisk/cfdisk discussion on gentoo-dev, may I - or svyatogor - mark this bug as LATER (i.e. when the handbook installation chapter is finished)? Then we can rediscuss all, or just add information on cfdisk.
Comment 8 Sergey Kuleshov (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-08-26 09:06:25 UTC
As we haven't been able to reach a common opinion on this topic I'm marking this bug as LATER and will reopen it when time comes.
Comment 9 Jan Kundrát (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2006-02-28 06:12:41 UTC
*** Bug 124397 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 10 Jan Kundrát (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2006-04-11 01:56:07 UTC
*** Bug 129555 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 11 Xavier Neys (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2006-04-11 01:57:29 UTC
Time to close
Comment 12 Xavier Neys (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2006-09-18 08:43:12 UTC
*** Bug 148076 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***