On switching from teTeX to texlive, and running the familiar texconfig, I am told to use tlmgr instead for things like setting hyphenation. tlmgr is not found. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1.# emerge -C tetex 2. edit /etc/make.conf to add "kpathsea" global useflag, and edit /etc/portage/package.use to add "graphics pstricks publishers science doc" useflags to texlive 3.# emerge -uvDNb texlive Actual Results: $ tlmgr -bash: command not found Expected Results: some sort of interactive configuration program should start. # emerge --info Portage 2.1.6.7 (default/linux/amd64/2008.0/desktop, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.8_p20080602-r1, 2.6.25-gentoo-r7 x86_64) ================================================================= System uname: Linux-2.6.25-gentoo-r7-x86_64-AMD_Athlon-tm-_64_X2_Dual_Core_Processor_6000+-with-glibc2.2.5 Timestamp of tree: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:00:08 +0000 app-shells/bash: 3.2_p39 dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7-r1, 2.1.7 dev-lang/python: 2.4.4-r13, 2.5.2-r7 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6 dev-util/cmake: 2.4.8 sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.11.1 sys-apps/sandbox: 1.2.18.1-r2 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.63 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10.2 sys-devel/binutils: 2.18-r3 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.0-r4 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.26 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.27-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64" CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu" CFLAGS="-march=athlon64 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu" CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/bin/startx /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/config /var/lib/hsqldb gs_init.ps" CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/language.dat.d /etc/texmf/language.def.d /etc/texmf/updmap.d /etc/texmf/web2c /etc/udev/rules.d" CXXFLAGS="-march=athlon64 -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles" FEATURES="distlocks fixpackages parallel-fetch protect-owned sfperms strict unmerge-orphans" GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.ibiblio.org/gentoo/ http://mirror.ac.uk/mirror/distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo http://ftp.belnet.be/linux/gentoo ftp://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/gentoo/ http://vlaai.snt.ipv6.utwente.nl/pub/os/linux/gentoo/ http://ftp.easynet.nl/mirror/gentoo/ http://ftp6.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/gentoo" LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1" LINGUAS="en_GB" MAKEOPTS="-j3" PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages" PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT="/" PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages" PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp" PORTDIR="/usr/portage" SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage" USE="X acl acpi alsa amd64 berkdb bluetooth branding bzip2 cairo cdr cli cracklib crypt cups dbus dri dvd dvdr dvdread eds emboss encode esd evo f77 fam firefox fortran gdbm gfortran gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk hal iconv ipv6 isdnlog jpeg kde kpathsea ldap libnotify mad midi mikmod mmx mp3 mpeg mudflap multilib ncurses nls nptl nptlonly objc ogg opengl openmp pam pcre pdf perl png ppds pppd python qt3 qt3support qt4 quicktime readline reflection sdl session spell spl sse sse2 ssl startup-notification svg sysfs tcpd tiff truetype unicode usb vorbis xml xorg xulrunner xv zlib" ALSA_CARDS="ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" APACHE2_MODULES="actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias" CAMERAS="canon" ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" LINGUAS="en_GB" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="nv vesa" Unset: CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, FFLAGS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY # cat /etc/portage/package.use ... app-text/texlive graphics pstricks publishers science doc
do you have any use of tlmgr? hyphenations are enabled/disabled when installing/removing texlive-lang* packages
I have no use of tlmgr -- it does not exist in my executable $PATH : $ which tlmgr which: no tlmgr in (/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2:/opt/blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.03/bin:/opt/blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.03/jre/bin:/usr/kde/3.5/bin:/usr/qt/3/bin:/usr/lib32/openoffice/program:/usr/local/gcc-svn/bin:/usr/games/bin:/usr/GNUstep/System/Tools:/usr/GNUstep/Local/Tools)
Then why did you open this bug? I removed it because it is, unless I missed something, a tool to install texlive packages that are of no use for us since we do it via ebuilds & portage and doesn't integrate well in our way of doing things.
(In reply to comment #3) > Then why did you open this bug? I removed it because it is, unless I missed > something, a tool to install texlive packages that are of no use for us since > we do it via ebuilds & portage and doesn't integrate well in our way of doing > things. closing as worksforme, unless someone has a real need for tlmgr.
I reported this bug because I was told to use tlmgr instead of texconfig by certain parts of texconfig. If indeed tlmgr is not useful under Gentoo, then either texconfig should reflect this, or tlmgr should be replaced by something that reports this to the user, rather than being non-existent.
(In reply to comment #3) > Then why did you open this bug? I removed it because it is, unless I missed > something, a tool to install texlive packages that are of no use for us since > we do it via ebuilds & portage and doesn't integrate well in our way of doing > things. > It seems to me that tlmgr would still be useful even under gentoo. There aren't ebuilds for every package in CTAN, nor is it practical or useful to try to achieve this. In other words, unless there is something I don't understand, it seems to me that tlmgr is designed specifically to manage your TeXLive installations and is better than portage at doing so, particularly if one want fine-grained control over the TeX packages that are installed.
(In reply to comment #6) > (In reply to comment #3) > > Then why did you open this bug? I removed it because it is, unless I missed > > something, a tool to install texlive packages that are of no use for us since > > we do it via ebuilds & portage and doesn't integrate well in our way of doing > > things. > > > > It seems to me that tlmgr would still be useful even under gentoo. There > aren't ebuilds for every package in CTAN, nor is it practical or useful to try > to achieve this. In other words, unless there is something I don't understand, > it seems to me that tlmgr is designed specifically to manage your TeXLive > installations and is better than portage at doing so, particularly if one want > fine-grained control over the TeX packages that are installed. > I agree, it would be nice to have tlmgr: espetially if I need just one package not whole collection. This can save much of space on HD.
+1 tlmgr is a life saver, sometimes.
tlmgr is a tool which allows to automatically download and install latex classes one by one from CTAN mirrors when they are required by latex. It is totally different from what portage does (installing packages including tons of unneeded classes prior to use), maybe it is just the word 'packages' which is misleading. tlmgr is absolutely required for the proper latex functioning. It took me an hour to figure out what is going on, and another hour to add missing packages by hands (again, portage is not suitable tool for that!).
(In reply to comment #9) > tlmgr is a tool which allows to automatically download and install latex > classes one by one from CTAN mirrors when they are required by latex. It is > totally different from what portage does (installing packages including tons of > unneeded classes prior to use), maybe it is just the word 'packages' which is > misleading. tlmgr is absolutely required for the proper latex functioning. It > took me an hour to figure out what is going on, and another hour to add missing > packages by hands (again, portage is not suitable tool for that!). > I'm not much of a TeX or LaTeX user, but can you use Gentoo's 'g-ctan' for that? As an aside, Gentoo's texlive-core-2009 installs /usr/bin/tlmgr, but not the TLConfig.pm module it needs to run!
yes g-ctan tries to replace the original tlmgr, but I do not see the point of removing tlmgr from the ebuild. That is not yast or whatever, this is latex class manager, it has nothing in common with portage, and I see no conflict. If somebody religious does not want to have it in his Gentoo, there must be a flag in ebuild, but simply removing it is totally wrong. Anyway g-ctan does not work `on-the-fly' like tlmgr does. tlmgr: command not found I really miss your point with TLConfig.pm
> tlmgr: command not found > I really miss your point with TLConfig.pm I think Ian's comment was that when you unmask the texlive-*-2009 ebuilds to build *-2009 tlpkg (which contains TLConfig.pm and lots of other stuff) was never installed. Without this you cannot run tlmgr. I was able to get it somewhat working by hand installing tlpkg into /usr/share, but this is not a viable solution. tlmgr requires tlpkg to be properly installed and configured. The question now is if tlmgr should actually be integrated back into texlive on gentoo (which I would like to see), and fix tlmgr/tlpkg on 2008 and/or 2009. Should this be bug be reopened?
sorry I missed 2009 indeed :) I am not sure whether that is true, I have read on some (debian?) forum a really good reason for pactching tlmgr off, again, I pass it from somebody else words: tlmgr attempts to write classes into the base texlive package tree, and it will not be included in that distro unless it learns to install packages into the user tree. If that is true (I just can not believe it), that sounds like a very good reason for me, and we should actually start kicking texlive guys. But if not, I want to reopen this bug. By the way g-ctan package is masked, I think it is not clever to remove the feature before replacement is ready.
With "app-text/texlive-2014" here. Please, until "app-portage/g-ctan" doesn't return from limbo, give us back "tlmgr". Good users will know how to make good use of it ;-)
It's actually there in texlive-2014: "/usr/share/texmf-dist/scripts/texlive/tlmgr.pl" though apparently missing a frontend and quite broken: "Can't locate TeXLive/TLConfig.pm in @INC (you may need to install the TeXLive::TLConfig module)..."
