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Bug 248429 - install-amd64-minimal-2008.0-r1.iso torrent missing
Summary: install-amd64-minimal-2008.0-r1.iso torrent missing
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Infrastructure
Classification: Unclassified
Component: [OLD] BitTorrent services at http://torrents.gentoo.org (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: High enhancement
Assignee: Gentoo Infrastructure
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Depends on: 316731
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Reported: 2008-11-23 17:15 UTC by Michael Palimaka (kensington)
Modified: 2011-06-09 07:22 UTC (History)
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Description Michael Palimaka (kensington) gentoo-dev 2008-11-23 17:15:28 UTC
A torrent for 'install-amd64-minimal-2008.0.iso' exists, but one for 'install-amd64-minimal-2008.0-r1.iso' does not.

Reproducible: Always

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Visit torrents.gentoo.org
2. View torrent list
3. Attempt to locate 'install-amd64-minimal-2008.0-r1.iso'
Actual Results:  
This torrent does not exist.

Expected Results:  
A torrent entry for this ISO.
Comment 1 Xake 2009-11-12 09:47:23 UTC
Is the tracker even a "blessed" gentoo project anymore?
I cannot find any links on the homapage in the download section or in mirrors section of the www.gentoo.org webpage, and the tracker does not carry the 10.0 or 10.1 releases.

Is this something that should be fixed or should the tracker be put to a slow death?
Comment 2 solar (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2009-11-13 02:18:15 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
..
> and the tracker does not carry the 10.0 or 10.1 releases.
The demands of the 10.x releases do not require the use of bt. Our mirroring network is pretty damn spiffy. This bug was also about the 2008-r1.iso
Comment 3 Xake 2009-11-13 07:51:43 UTC
(In reply to comment #2)
> (In reply to comment #1)
> ..
> > and the tracker does not carry the 10.0 or 10.1 releases.
> The demands of the 10.x releases do not require the use of bt. Our mirroring
> network is pretty damn spiffy. This bug was also about the 2008-r1.iso
> 

That does not really answer why you only find http://torrents.gentoo.org/ with the help of google these days.
The comment about it not carrying 10.0/10.1, the comment about the download page not having any references to the tracker and the fact that this bug is from 2008-11-23 and the torrent for install-amd64-minimal-2008.0-r1.iso is still MIA made me ask if the tracker is still a "blessed" project because if it is not it rises the next question, if this bug should be left open until someone comes around adding the torrent, or if this bug should be closed as WONTFIX.
Comment 4 Robin Johnson archtester Gentoo Infrastructure gentoo-dev Security 2009-11-13 10:03:07 UTC
I say we put a large banner on the top of torrents.g.o say it's only used for old releases, and no longer used for new releases due to an increase in available mirror bandwidth.

I'd also like it to point to John Hawley's talk, "Issues in Linux Mirroring: Or, BitTorrent Considered Harmful", where for 99.9% of users, the proper mirror infrastructure mitigates the need for BitTorrent, and for those cases where it doesn't, BitTorrent needs smarter peer selection to prefer a LAN copy.

http://ols.fedoraproject.org/OLS/Reprints-2008/hawley-reprint.pdf

For giant files, like 4+ GiB DVDs, the torrents are still useful, but below 3GiB I don't think we should bother. Others might want to set the bar lower, and include the 10.x releases on there?

For the 2008 amd64+x86 installers, BitTorrent sent out around 20k copies. Bouncer system sent out 478k links to mirrors for the same files. We do not know how many additional copies were people looking on a mirror directly.
5.5k copies of minimal via BT, to 406k via Bouncer.
sparc64's package cd got 183 via BT, 12k via Bouncer.
universal cds 2k via BT, 83k via Bouncer.
Comment 5 Robin Johnson archtester Gentoo Infrastructure gentoo-dev Security 2011-06-09 07:22:10 UTC
torrents.g.o still works...
Closing this.