This eBuild includes themes that are pornographic in nature. Problem themes: "Ally Baggett Brown" "Tiffany (Purple)" "Tiffany Point Four" "brushed nude" "derriere" "Pride" "City Life" "Eros" "FineArt" "Once Upon A Time" "Wash" "Seeing Red" "Red Dream" There are a few more that are a little suspect, but do not feature anyone in the buff. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. merge windowmaker-themes 2. run WindowMaker 3. choose some "problem" themes Actual Results: My desktop background featured naked women. Expected Results: I think that these problem themes should be replaced with some that could be potentially less offensive.
Would splitting these off into a seperate ebuild with a warning in the description be ok do you think?
Personal opinion: the end user should be free to choose to use whatever themes they want. As I see it, the situation where there is a problem is the situation in which these themes are not clearly labelled as being pornogrpahic. If it's clear that these themes have nudity, the end user can choose whether or not they want to see them.
01:38 < lisa> d: so how's gentoo? 01:38 <@d> lisa: a bit raw still, and lacking in some goodies. But much better than the last tie I fought it out. 01:38 < lisa> d: What's lacking? 01:39 <@d> lisa: some windowmaker stuff raght off the bat. And ne, of course. 01:39 <@d> Just various little civilized glissandos. 01:39 < lisa> d: well. write an ebuild ;) 01:40 <@d> lisa: I am only an egg at this point. 01:40 <@d> lisa: but I decided the easy thing to do was to make it an icewm testbed; it seems quite well placed there. 01:40 <@d> lisa: it does, however, have the most amazing collection of pornographic wmaker themes...
it seems we will try to attract users using any means necessary, even if it means we have to use porngraphic themes. ;) just kidding.
'fixed' in cvs http://cvs.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/gentoo-x86/x11-themes/windowmaker-themes/windowmaker-themes-0.1.ebuild.diff?r1=1.1&r2=1.2
DETAILS (taken from http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20030707-newsletter.xml) In the end, the offending themes were removed from the ebuild; some voiced concerns that it would be bad to modify an upstream package, but this was actually just a collection of themes thrown together and put in Portage.
eh. it's a "Gentoo Easter Egg"!
This is a feature. Not a bug.
I think that the action taken was wrong.. Gentoo is about choice, not about imposing other peoples morals on others. If it's legal, gentoo should have it. I do not like the idea of censoring, and I've put in my two cents. Josh.
many developers (myself included) would agree with you but what it came down to (and why i gave in) is that this is a user generated ebuild of just random themes what we decided was that upstream packages will not be 'censored', but this package doesnt really fall under the category of being upstream generated ...
The problem is that depending on how you interpret the law, and sometimes even where you live, it can be illegal. I would think that every admin that runs a mirror site of the distfiles would not even like to risk coming under any legal fire just for some windowmaker themes! http://www.adultweblaw.com/laws/obscene.htm
This is why gaim-smileys and fortune_mod now have the "offensive" USE flag. I don't see why it couldn't have been applied in this case to keep any flack down, even though I do agree with the developer's choice to remove the obscenities from portage.
Just submitted similar bug and didn't find this one first. Sorry. Concerning the "censorship" issue: It is not legal to sexually harrass women in your office by displaying pictures of nude women on your monitor. Some people use windowmaker in an office setting. Pictures of nude women showing up on your monitor when you are browsing through themes is not appropriate for an office setting. My issue is not about "pornography," it is about "appropriatness of content." It may be a fine distinction and a fine line to walk, but that's the legal environment in which we live. My suggestion is to divide the ebuild into two distinct packages, one "personal" and one "professional," or something to that effect.
*** Bug 41999 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
I understand that this bug is closed and marked FIXED already, but I would still like to point out something i posted in the forums: "MAJOR problem: It is legal for a minor in the US to download and install the offensive fortunes. However, if a minor installs window maker with 'offensive', then he/she is volating the law For that reason I think we should have differant 'adult' and 'offensive' USE flags, as people can still get any offensive gaim smilies or fortunes without having portage break the law for them when they go to install window maker " How about this: "offensive" means potentially offensive material that you should only get if your prepared to be offended. 'adult' means that you take full responsibility for claiming that you are legally of age to download/install items that have age restrictions. And of course, those wanting all offensive material can just add "offensive adult" to their make.conf (or package.keywords) Also, i would *highly* recommend that the USE flag be turned off by default. This isn't a thing of censorship, as people really can get very offended, and there might be leagal problems with making it too easy for a minor installing gentoo to obtain porn while still allowing those who want it to get it.
I totally agree with the above person. There should be two sererate USE flags.
