Whenever I try to emerge gnome-applets, emerge freezes at the exact same spot during the configuration every time. ... If I upgrade to the unstable version of python and run python-updater, the problem goes away. ... However, if I downgrade back to the prod version of python and run python-updater (which does nothing), the problem reoccurs - again at the exact same spot. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. Install 2008.0 beta1 2. emerge --sync 3. emerge -uDN world 4. emerge gnome-applets (if not required by step #3) Actual Results: emerge freezes very early in the configuration stage at this line: checking for python module gnomeapplet... Even Ctrl^C will not break it out. I have to use Ctrl^Z to force the process into background, grep for emerge in ps output, and kill it using the -9 flag. There are no error or warning messages that I can see. Expected Results: I expect it to emerge successfully. # emerge --info Portage 2.1.4.4 (default/linux/amd64/2008.0, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.6.1-r0, 2.6.24-gentoo-r4 x86_64) ================================================================= System uname: 2.6.24-gentoo-r4 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Extreme CPU X9650 @ 3.00GHz Timestamp of tree: Thu, 01 May 2008 17:04:01 +0000 app-shells/bash: 3.2_p17-r1 dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.1.4 dev-lang/python: 2.4.4-r9, 2.5.2-r2 sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.11.1 sys-apps/sandbox: 1.2.18.1-r2 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.61-r1 sys-devel/automake: 1.5, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10.1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.18-r1 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.0-r4 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.26 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.23-r3 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64" CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu" CFLAGS="-march=nocona -O2 -pipe" CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu" CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/config" CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/php/apache2-php5/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php5/ext-active/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/udev/rules.d" CXXFLAGS="-march=nocona -O2 -pipe" DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles" FEATURES="distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict unmerge-orphans userfetch" GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://distfiles.gentoo.org http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/gentoo" MAKEOPTS="-j4" PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages" PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS="--timeout=30" PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages" PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp" PORTDIR="/usr/portage" SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage" USE="X a52 aac acl acpi alsa amd64 apache2 apm arts audiofile avi bash-completion berkdb bidi bitmap-fonts bonobo bzip2 cairo cdda cddb cdio cdr cgi clamav cli cracklib crypt ctype cups dri dts dv dvd dvdr emacs encode esd exif expat fam ffmpeg firefox font-server fortran freetype gdbm gif gnome gpm gtk gtk2 hal iconv imlib ipv6 isdnlog java javascript jpeg kde libg++ libwww live lm_sensors mad matroska midi mikmod mmx motif mp3 mpeg mplayer mudflap multilib mysql ncurses nls nptl nptlonly nvidia ofx ogg oggvorbis openal openexr opengl openmp pam pcre pdf pdflib perl php plotutils pmu png posix pppd python qmail-spp qt qt3 qt3support qt4 quicktime rdesktop readline reflection ruby samba scanner sdl session simplexml slang snmp speex spell spl sse sse2 ssl stream svg tcl tcltk tcpd theora tidy tiff tk tokenizer truetype truetype-fonts type1 type1-fonts unicode usb vcd vhosts vim-syntax vlm vorbix wxwindows x264 xcomposite xml xmlrpc xorg xpm xv xvid xvmc zlib" ALSA_CARDS="ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" APACHE2_MODULES="actions alias auth_basic auth_digest authn_anon authn_dbd authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache dav dav_fs dav_lock dbd deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers ident include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic rewrite setenvif so speling status unique_id usertrack" ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia" Unset: CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY
Here's the complete emerge output: # emerge gnome-applets Calculating dependencies... done! >>> Verifying ebuild Manifests... >>> Emerging (1 of 1) gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.20.1 to / * gnome-applets-2.20.1.tar.bz2 RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-) ... [ ok ] * checking ebuild checksums ;-) ... [ ok ] * checking auxfile checksums ;-) ... [ ok ] * checking miscfile checksums ;-) ... [ ok ] * checking gnome-applets-2.20.1.tar.bz2 ;-) ... [ ok ] >>> Unpacking source... >>> Unpacking gnome-applets-2.20.1.tar.bz2 to /var/tmp/portage/gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.20.1/work * Fixing OMF Makefiles ... [ ok ] * Running elibtoolize in: gnome-applets-2.20.1 * Applying portage-1.5.10.patch ... * Applying sed-1.5.6.patch ... >>> Source unpacked. >>> Compiling source in /var/tmp/portage/gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.20.1/work/gnome-applets-2.20.1 ... * econf: updating gnome-applets-2.20.1/config.sub with /usr/share/gnuconfig/config.sub * econf: updating gnome-applets-2.20.1/config.guess with /usr/share/gnuconfig/config.guess ./configure --prefix=/usr --host=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var/lib --disable-scrollkeeper --enable-flags --with-hal --enable-ipv6 --disable-gtk-doc --libdir=/usr/lib64 --build=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p... /bin/mkdir -p checking for gawk... gawk checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no checking for style of include used by make... 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# env MANPATH=/etc/java-config-2/current-system-vm/man:/usr/local/share/man:/usr/share/man:/usr/share/binutils-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/2.18/man:/usr/share/gcc-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/man:/etc/java-config/system-vm/man/:/usr/lib64/php5/man/:/usr/kde/3.5/share/man:/usr/qt/3/doc/man SHELL=/bin/bash TERM=xterm QTDIR=/usr/qt/3 OS=Linux USER=root LS_COLORS=no=00:fi=00:di=01;34:ln=01;36:pi=40;33:so=01;35:do=01;35:bd=40;33;01:cd=40;33;01:or=01;05;37;41:mi=01;05;37;41:su=37;41:sg=30;43:tw=30;42:ow=34;42:st=37;44:ex=01;32:*.tar=01;31:*.tgz=01;31:*.svgz=01;31:*.arj=01;31:*.taz=01;31:*.lzh=01;31:*.lzma=01;31:*.zip=01;31:*.z=01;31:*.Z=01;31:*.dz=01;31:*.gz=01;31:*.bz2=01;31:*.bz=01;31:*.tbz2=01;31:*.tz=01;31:*.deb=01;31:*.rpm=01;31:*.jar=01;31:*.rar=01;31:*.ace=01;31:*.zoo=01;31:*.cpio=01;31:*.7z=01;31:*.rz=01;31:*.jpg=01;35:*.jpeg=01;35:*.gif=01;35:*.bmp=01;35:*.pbm=01;35:*.pgm=01;35:*.ppm=01;35:*.tga=01;35:*.xbm=01;35:*.xpm=01;35:*.tif=01;35:*.tiff=01;35:*.png=01;35:*.svg=01;35:*.mng=01;35:*.pcx=01;35:*.mov=01;35:*.mpg=01;35:*.mpeg=01;35:*.m2v=01;35:*.mkv=01;35:*.ogm=01;35:*.mp4=01;35:*.m4v=01;35:*.mp4v=01;35:*.vob=01;35:*.qt=01;35:*.nuv=01;35:*.wmv=01;35:*.asf=01;35:*.rm=01;35:*.rmvb=01;35:*.flc=01;35:*.avi=01;35:*.fli=01;35:*.gl=01;35:*.dl=01;35:*.xcf=01;35:*.xwd=01;35:*.yuv=01;35:*.pdf=00;32:*.ps=00;32:*.txt=00;32:*.patch=00;32:*.diff=00;32:*.log=00;32:*.tex=00;32:*.doc=00;32:*.aac=00;36:*.au=00;36:*.flac=00;36:*.mid=00;36:*.midi=00;36:*.mka=00;36:*.mp3=00;36:*.mpc=00;36:*.ogg=00;36:*.ra=00;36:*.wav=00;36: PRELINK_PATH_MASK=/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10 GDK_USE_XFT=1 PAGER=/usr/bin/less CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/env.d/java/ /etc/php/cli-php5/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5/ext-active/ /etc/php/apache2-php5/ext-active/ /etc/udev/rules.d /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/revdep-rebuild XEDITOR=xemacs PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2:/usr/kde/3.5/sbin:/usr/kde/3.5/bin:/usr/qt/3/bin PWD=/local b=.. JAVA_HOME=/etc/java-config-2/current-system-vm JAVAC=/etc/java-config-2/current-system-vm/bin/javac EDITOR=xemacs FCEDIT=vi QMAKESPEC=linux-g++ KDEDIRS=/usr:/usr/local:/usr/kde/3.5 PS1=\[\033[01;31m\]\h\[\033[01;34m\] \W \$\[\033[00m\] JDK_HOME=/etc/java-config-2/current-system-vm SHLVL=1 HOME=/root b4=../../../.. b5=../../../../.. PYTHONPATH=/usr/lib64/portage/pym LESS=-R -M --shift 5 LOGNAME=root b2=../.. PRINTER=hp5si_b3_jd5126 GCC_SPECS= CVS_RSH=ssh b3=../../.. XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share:/usr/kde/3.5/share:/usr/local/share CLASSPATH=. PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/qt/3/lib64/pkgconfig LESSOPEN=|lesspipe.sh %s INFOPATH=/usr/share/info:/usr/share/binutils-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/2.18/info:/usr/share/gcc-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/info:/usr/share/info/emacs-22 DISPLAY=localhost:10.0 USB_DEVFS_PATH=/dev/bus/usb OPENGL_PROFILE=nvidia SANE_CONFIG_DIR=/etc/sane.d CONFIG_PROTECT=/usr/kde/3.5/share/config /usr/kde/3.5/env /usr/kde/3.5/shutdown /usr/share/config XAUTHORITY=/root/.xauthEPUu1b _=/usr/bin/env OLDPWD=/root
I recently submitted another bug for a similar issue: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219974 emerge of libkdepim also freezes during early configuration, but it hangs on this line: >>> Unpacking source... >>> Unpacking parts of kdepim-3.5.8.tar.bz2 to /var/tmp/portage/kde-base/libkdepim-3.5.8/work >>> Unpacking kdepim-3.5-patchset-04.tar.bz2 to /var/tmp/portage/kde-base/libkdepim-3.5.8/work Symlinking library libkcal under /usr/kde/3.5/lib64/ in source dir * Applying libkdepim-3.5-headers_for_knetworkmanager.diff ... <freezes here> Maybe they are related? Or, just coincidence? I dunno.
Well, I kept doing an "emerge --skipfirst", until my "emerge -e world" was completed. I don't know what was finally rebuilt, but something was eventually rebuilt that made everything else happy. I am able to emerge gnome-applets and libkdepim with no problems now. I would love to know what tool was broken and causing this problem, but I guess there is no way to know now.
