I'm a little bit confused with --with-bdeps=y, so I expect there are more people coming soon. I'm using portage-2.1.2_pre2-r7. What is a pronunciation of with-bdeps - is it like "with (all) build dependencies" or what does it mean? Some memo would be helpful (also in manual page), the name should reflect the meaning. Actually when I tried to update world (`emerge -uavD --newuse world`), some RDEPENDs were ignored (xdm in my case, it is RDEPEND of virtual/x11) - I cannot say if all or only some RDEPENDs were ignored. As far as I know RDEPEND is a run time dependency, not build time dependency. With "--with-bdeps y" all dependencies were (hopefully) found. So my proposals are: 1. Update portage to include RDEPENDs with --deep, or 2. Update the description (in manual page, enhance --help) to handle this issue more in detail (with respect to RDEPENDs) Maybe it's a bug, but for now it is a feature request :-) My personal opinion is to update portage to include RDEPENDs automatically with --deep.
bdeps means build time dependencies (dependencies that are in DEPEND only, not RDEPEND).
(In reply to comment #1) > bdeps means build time dependencies (dependencies that are in DEPEND only, not > RDEPEND). So it should have nothing to do with RDEPENDs? In that case I think the current behaviour is buggy, because it affects RDEPENDs also.
(In reply to comment #2) > So it should have nothing to do with RDEPENDs? In that case I think the current > behaviour is buggy, because it affects RDEPENDs also. It works fine as far as I know. You'll have to provide more detail. You can attach the emerge --pretend --debug output for the command that produces unexpected results.
Created attachment 99270 [details] Output of `emerge -uavD --newuse world` Results into [ebuild U ] app-admin/eselect-opengl-1.0.5 [1.0.4] 3 kB [ebuild R ] net-misc/neon-0.26.1-r1 USE="nls ssl zlib -expat -socks5 (-static%)" 0 kB [ebuild U ] net-analyzer/tcpdump-3.9.5-r1 [3.9.5] USE="ipv6 samba%* ssl" 0 kB [ebuild fU ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.12-r2 [1.4.2.12] USE="X alsa doc nsplugin -examples% -jce" 0 kB [ebuild R ] app-cdr/k3b-0.12.17 USE="alsa arts css dvdr encode ffmpeg flac hal kde mp3 musepack vcd vorbis xin
Created attachment 99272 [details] Output of `emerge -uavD --newuse --with-bdeps y world` Results in [ebuild R ] net-misc/neon-0.26.1-r1 USE="nls ssl zlib -expat -socks5 (-static%)" 0 kB [ebuild U ] net-analyzer/tcpdump-3.9.5-r1 [3.9.5] USE="ipv6 samba%* ssl" 0 kB [ebuild U ] app-admin/eselect-opengl-1.0.5 [1.0.4] 3 kB [ebuild U ] x11-apps/xdm-1.1.0 [1.0.5] USE="ipv6 pam xprint -debug" 371 kB [ebuild fU ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.12-r2 [1.4.2.12] USE="X alsa doc nsplugin -examples% -jce" 0 kB [ebuild R ] app-cdr/k3b-0.12.17 USE="alsa arts css dvdr encode ffmpeg flac hal kde mp3 musepack vcd vorbis xinerama -debug -musicbrainz -sndfile" LINGUAS="cs en_GB -af -bg -bn -br -bs -ca -cy -da -de -el -es -et -eu -fi% -fr -ga -he -hi -hu -is -it -ja -km -lt -mk -ms -nb -nds -nl -nn -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -se -sl -sr -sr@Latn -sv -ta -tr -uk -zh_CN -zh_TW%" 0 kB Mention the additional xdm there.
xdm is there from virtual/x11 (RDEPENDs), but I cannot say why it is there while using "--with-bdeps y" only. Please have a look at debug outputs of both versions of emerge.
This is sort of a variation of bug 136178. When you use --with-bdeps=y, some of the the || ( ( modular deps) virtual/x11 ) style dependencies cause virtual/x11 to be pulled into the depgraph even though virtual/x11 never really should be pulled in with modular X (virtual/x11-7 is really just a compatibility hack, or so I've heard). If you want to ensure that deps of virtual/x11 are always pulled in (xdm, for example), then you should add it to the world favorites with `emerge --noreplace virtual/x11`.
(In reply to comment #7) > If you want to ensure that deps of virtual/x11 are always pulled in (xdm, for > example), then you should add it to the world favorites with `emerge > --noreplace virtual/x11`. Perfect. Thanks for the hint :-)
*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of 136178 ***
