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Bug 14570 - gtk-engines metapackage strongly desired
Summary: gtk-engines metapackage strongly desired
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Linux
Classification: Unclassified
Component: New packages (show other bugs)
Hardware: All All
: High normal (vote)
Assignee: Gentoo Linux Gnome Desktop Team
Depends on:
Reported: 2003-01-26 07:07 UTC by synonymousca
Modified: 2003-02-04 10:49 UTC (History)
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Description synonymousca 2003-01-26 07:07:04 UTC
I recently updated my system to the Gnome 2.2 series, which meant that a number
of libraries were moved around. This necessitated recompilation of a number of
applications, large and small. (Not sure if everyone will need to do this later
on, I've been tracking most of the 2.1.x development outside of portage).

What must be said, though, is that the most annoying of the bunch was the
gtk-engines series. Once I noticed the big package's removal, I simply used
gtk-themes to update it, as I saw mentioned in bug 8201.

Anyway, to make a long story short when I went to rebuild them, 'emerge
/usr/portage/x11-themes/gtk-engines*/g*.ebuild' (after deleting the ebuilds for
irrelevent versions) was pretty darn inconvenient when contrasted with a meta
package which perhaps depends on the latest version of each engine or instead
installs the whole gtk-engines package in slot-2 while you can continue to
maintain separate ebuilds for the gtk-1 versions under the various
gtk-engines-whatever tags.
Comment 1 Leonardo Boshell (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-01-26 19:33:25 UTC
I'm afraid I don't understand you very well.

You don't need to 'emerge /usr/portage/x11-themes/gtk-engines*/g*.ebuild', nor
"delete the ebuilds for irrelevent versions".

If you read the comments on bug #8201, you can find the following:

There is a convenient package which install all the proper engines you might
want: gtk-themes. If you want Gtk 2 themes you can just 'emerge gtk-themes'.
However, if you want Gtk 1 themes, you can 'emerge =gtk-themes-1.0*'

As far as I can tell, once you upgraded to Gnome 2, all you had to do to is
``emerge gtk-themes'' and that's all there is to it. gtk-themes _is_ the
meta-package in this case.

Did I misunderstand you?
Comment 2 synonymousca 2003-01-27 07:19:12 UTC
You've misunderstood me somewhat.

I already had most of the theme engines installed. I needed (in order to
eliminate annoying console error messages) to recompile several of them, and I
figured I might as well do the whole batch.

As the engines were already installed, remerging gtk-themes without the
--emptytree option would do nothing for me. Using the --emptytree option, on the
other hand, would rebuild dozens of packages needlessly.

What I'm really protesting is that the gtk-engines package (distributed by
GNOME) has been broken up into about ten separate ebuilds (which is fine as an
option, I guess, for those people who really feel a need to save 400 kb of disk
space) and that the one big package which handled them all is gone.

If you want/need to remerge them (same versions as are already installed), this
means ten packages must be rebuilt rather than one.
Comment 3 foser (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-01-27 13:09:40 UTC
the last gtk+ ebuild containts a simple line at then end to rebuild your
installed theme engines.

btw leonardp, i dont have much dealings with engines, but shouldnt they be
updated sinec the new gtk-engines pack is out and i see some themes are b0rked
here and i suspect it has todo with engines being too old ?

reporter : in time it doesnt matter if you compile one big pack or several
smaller ones, so i don't really see that point. And i don't think its broken up
for diskspace, but for conformation between the engines.
Comment 4 synonymousca 2003-01-27 22:10:32 UTC
foser: So it does. I must have missed that thanks to that little problem called
'merging multiple packages at a time' (And yes, I know of and can't be bothered
to use the workaround mentioned in aone of the newsletters.)

The dig about disk space was more of a joke than anything - I don't think it was
necessary to split them out in the first place. Either way, feel free to close
this bug unless you want it open as an 'update gtk-engines' reminder.
Comment 5 foser (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-02-04 10:49:10 UTC
im closing this, i don't really think its a good idea to have a gtk-engines package while there are several gtk-engines-* packages around. Too confusing, packages depending on gtk-engines should just depend on the seperate engines contained in the pack like the newest gnome-themes ebuild.