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Bug 124088 - dev-libs/glib-2.9.6 (version bump)
Summary: dev-libs/glib-2.9.6 (version bump)
Status: RESOLVED INVALID
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Linux
Classification: Unclassified
Component: New packages (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: High enhancement (vote)
Assignee: Gentoo Linux Gnome Desktop Team
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Reported: 2006-02-25 10:22 UTC by Beech Horn
Modified: 2006-02-27 03:30 UTC (History)
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Attachments
glib-2.9.6.ebuild (glib-2.9.6.ebuild,1.51 KB, text/plain)
2006-02-25 10:23 UTC, Beech Horn
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Description Beech Horn 2006-02-25 10:22:42 UTC
Heres an ebuild - pango-11.6 needs a glib >= 2.9.1. I needed the new Pango for PIC support.
Comment 1 Beech Horn 2006-02-25 10:23:06 UTC
Created attachment 80716 [details]
glib-2.9.6.ebuild
Comment 2 John N. Laliberte (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2006-02-25 14:20:13 UTC
2.10.0 is already out, and its in the official overlay.
Comment 3 Beech Horn 2006-02-26 07:26:18 UTC
I know - but it had issues with some GTK based apps - you can leave this out - but it was the only version that worked 100% for me.
Comment 4 Beech Horn 2006-02-26 07:32:32 UTC
Where is this official overlay - latest after rsyncing for me was 2.8.6?!?
Comment 5 John N. Laliberte (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2006-02-26 07:34:04 UTC
by overlay I mean the experimental gnome 2.14 overlay.  We do not add odd numbered gnome releases into portage because they are experimental versions.
Comment 6 Beech Horn 2006-02-26 07:49:19 UTC
Where may I obtain this "experimental" Gnome overlay from? I only posted this version as I can report 100% stability on x86 for a Pentium III, Athlon XP and Athlon64 system. I was trying to resolve probs for Pango - take it from feedback on bug posts that its not worth trying to contribute to Gentoo unless its on the forums. If this is the case it's the same on Gnome too - KDE and Slackware seem to be the only dev groups that accept help. Wasn't it Richard Stalman who started the Free Software movement when he couldn't help improve a program he was using (amongst other reasons).

I'll leave my posts on just the forums then - my 3 areas of concern are that switching between 1.4 and 1.5 JDK's is annoying so I posted fixes that made my systems work on just 1.5 - WACOM support is flawed in GTK so I posted fixes - and prelink wouldn't work on pango so I had to update glib and pango...

Maybe I'll go back to Slackware - less people contribute but at least they accept help.
Comment 7 John N. Laliberte (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2006-02-26 08:03:21 UTC
You can find the address for the overlay in Comment #3 on this bug:
http://bugs.gentoo.org/119872

We do not put unstable versions of gnome packages in portage because they break more than they fix.

Please be patient.
Comment 8 Doug Goldstein (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2006-02-27 00:14:34 UTC
Beech, you need to relax. You're asking for software that upstream maintainers themselves classify and not ready for production use to be added to production use in Gentoo. That's an unrealistic expectation and by not intergrating your request into Gentoo you're saying we're shunning your contributions. To top it off you have the nerve to lecture us about RMS, down right incredible.

I suggest you try something like Linux From Scratch and install and maintain the packages you want on your system.

As just to give you a little cluebird, many of the Gentoo developers are actually the upstream maintainers for some of the packages that people want put into Portage. If they are not they are surely subscribed to a list that announces the release or get a personal e-mail from the upstream maintainer. I have NEVER received a bug report about a new version being released of a package I maintain that I didn't know about before I got the bug report. I've even received a bug report from a user about a new version when I myself told him that I was in the process preping the release.
Comment 9 Beech Horn 2006-02-27 00:43:41 UTC
As mentioned on the thread - I retract ALL COMMENTS and deeply apologise. I just didn't know this - and it's not clearly explained anywhere. I am deeply sorry for any upset - I felt anguished as this is not the Free/Open Source software development practise I was used to. I didn't realise that in all fairness it is the development practise I am used to - it's just not clearly signposted. As I am a web developer (AJAX primarily) I will offer to help the Gentoo website by adding a section for overlays that could possibly be added as a link to the "What now?" part of the Gentoo Handbook - so that more like me moving from Slackware to the brilliant Gentoo don't end up feeling like I did. Believe me when I say you'll see more scenarios like this one if the information about the dev releases isn't put up by the time the more Slackwarians jump ship (everyones in my old user groups are trying to get off that distribution and into Gentoo over the course of the next year).

The main point is that I want to help - I suggest we leave this bug alone and continue on http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=3142265#3142265 if there are further comments.
Comment 10 Jakub Moc (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2006-02-27 02:56:40 UTC
(In reply to comment #9)
> As I am a web developer (AJAX primarily) I will offer to help the
> Gentoo website by adding a section for overlays that could possibly be added as
> a link to the "What now?" part of the Gentoo Handbook

http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Overlays

There are also links to overlays on some Gentoo project pages.
Comment 11 Beech Horn 2006-02-27 03:06:35 UTC
Fair enough - please excuse me being blind. Is it worth mentioning this direct link (http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Overlays) could be added to the next handbook draft with a note about Gentoo Dev's actually being on top of version releases?
Comment 12 Beech Horn 2006-02-27 03:30:08 UTC
I know I was hasty on this bug report - but this is where I had just had enough of seemingly vacant replies and lost my nerve. The bottom line is that I am just trying to help and SHOULD NOT of vented - you've all helped educate me and I'll pass that knowledge to the fellow migrating Slackwarians.

There is an overwhelmingly large contributing dev community and I just wish the noob guides didn't expect people to be new to Linux in the verbose or "what now?" sections. This is where I for one believe notes for migrating devs should also be kept - with an explanation for noobs that they won't get support for unstable releases.