Hi gang, recently I've heard from some Czech users that they feel quite lost when they see networkless and network-based Handbooks. It seems that their separation is still not visible enough. They've also said that they haven't submitted bugs because they have been told that "Gentoo docs are the best". So, here's a list of the changes I propose: a) Move network-based handbook to /doc/en/handbook/networked/ (maybe suggest better name?), with proper redirects from old location for some time, of course. /doc/en/handbook/networked/index.xml will look similar like current /doc/en/handbook/2005.1/index.xml, new /doc/en/handbook/index.xml will just point to proper versions of our handbooks and include general stuff like current one. b) Add words "network-based"/"networkless" to stuff like <abstract> in handbook-$arch.xml files Please don't just WONTFIX without proper talk :-) Comments, suggestions?
a) no b) sure, 2005.1/index.xml has it already BTW, "Gentoo Linux 2005.1 <brite>without an internet connection</brite>" is quite obvious. Sorry, but <flash>without an internet connection</flash> is not supported.
(In reply to comment #1) > a) no Any reasons, apart from "I don't want to do that?" :-) > b) sure, 2005.1/index.xml has it already But neither handbook/2005.1/handbook-$arch.xml nor handbook/handbook-$arch.xml has... > BTW, "Gentoo Linux 2005.1 <brite>without an internet connection</brite>" is > quite obvious. Yeah, it is. But a lot of people still gets confused because they don't see this separation in HB content itself - I mean, what if they just get to http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=10 from some link on a third-party site?
I see this confusion way too often in Finnish community too, and it isn't too rare in Bugzilla nor forums neither. But I don't believe this can be fixed by any amount of flashing lights and emphasized words anywhere. The problem is in the separation itself, because it is quite unexpected, and always makes people reading the docs doubtful, and after that the brite emphasized text is not enough to clear the confusion. It's not very uncommon to hear newbies to ponder over it "it does say without networking and I do have networking but it also says 2005.1 and other one doesn't and install disc does and perhaps I still should or..." I think that single entry point page forcing people to make explicit choices would be easiest way to make the distinction clear. Something like <uri link="handbook/">I have networking during installation</uri>. <uri link="handbook/20xy.z/>I don't have networking during installation</uri>. A bit annoying gateway entrance solution, I know, but best I can come up with.
(In reply to comment #2) > > a) no > Any reasons, apart from "I don't want to do that?" :-) No, it will not happen. Get over it. > > b) sure, 2005.1/index.xml has it already > But neither handbook/2005.1/handbook-$arch.xml nor handbook/handbook-$arch.xml > has... Which part of "sure" did you not understand? Abstracts have been updated
Abstracts have been updated. Directories will not be reshuffled, it's just not worth it. I'm not even convinced we still need separate handbooks, but that has to be carefully considered.
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