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Bug 940472 - dev-lang/ada-bootstrap: provide newer binaries (possibly our own)
Summary: dev-lang/ada-bootstrap: provide newer binaries (possibly our own)
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Linux
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Current packages (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: Normal normal
Assignee: Gentoo Linux ADA team
URL:
Whiteboard:
Keywords:
Depends on: 946646 946648 946649 947326 940471 946644 946645 946647 946650
Blocks: 137268 919667
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Reported: 2024-09-29 01:23 UTC by Sam James
Modified: 2025-01-01 20:09 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Description Sam James archtester Gentoo Infrastructure gentoo-dev Security 2024-09-29 01:23:12 UTC
Once bug 940471 is done, we should figure out building our own binaries or using newer ones (e.g. Airlie), as I mentioned in https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=799693623d76c89e8b04d2434d0dfece44bb49f9:
"""
Remaining bits to be done:
* ...

* Build our own, or source some other copy (e.g. from Alire), of a newer
  bootstrap GNAT. https://github.com/alire-project/GNAT-FSF-builds is
  a likely candidate.
"""
Comment 1 Larry the Git Cow gentoo-dev 2024-09-30 02:02:31 UTC
The bug has been referenced in the following commit(s):

https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=1ce76a16c8f6e283f277190e4b86dfea8fc38cb3

commit 1ce76a16c8f6e283f277190e4b86dfea8fc38cb3
Author:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
AuthorDate: 2024-09-30 01:59:37 +0000
Commit:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
CommitDate: 2024-09-30 02:00:49 +0000

    toolchain.eclass: add bug reference to ada-bootstrap comment
    
    Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/940471
    Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/940472
    Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>

 eclass/toolchain.eclass | 4 ++--
 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
Comment 2 Larry the Git Cow gentoo-dev 2024-10-01 01:11:22 UTC
The bug has been referenced in the following commit(s):

https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=e6a69ea10ed74a0ce49e979bbc4bbce139949259

commit e6a69ea10ed74a0ce49e979bbc4bbce139949259
Author:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
AuthorDate: 2024-10-01 01:02:17 +0000
Commit:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
CommitDate: 2024-10-01 01:10:28 +0000

    toolchain.eclass: support dev-lang/ada-bootstrap
    
    Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/547358
    Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/919667
    Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/940472
    Closes: https://bugs.gentoo.org/940471
    Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>

 eclass/toolchain.eclass | 42 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---------
 1 file changed, 33 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)

https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=2fecbe438a39dfc3b226ff2c474c297a0763998f

commit 2fecbe438a39dfc3b226ff2c474c297a0763998f
Author:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
AuthorDate: 2024-09-30 20:01:59 +0000
Commit:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
CommitDate: 2024-10-01 01:10:27 +0000

    dev-lang/ada-bootstrap: new package, add 0_p2021
    
    Split dev-lang/gnat-gpl into dev-lang/ada-bootstrap. This ebuild
    was initially a clone of dev-lang/gnat-gpl-2021-r5 then had some
    cleanups done, toolchain.eclass use removed, and simplified what it
    configures/builds/installs.
    
    As I mentioned in 799693623d76c89e8b04d2434d0dfece44bb49f9, there were
    two jobs left -- this fixes the first one: splitting dev-lang/gnat-gpl
    into its own package which doesn't collide with sys-devel/gcc:10 and
    also does the least possible work, not with lots of USE, etc.)
    
    Some inspiration taken from sys-devel/bpf-toolchain. Considered
    using the *-toolchain name again but given the purpose of this is *not*
    just to avoid crossdev use but instead to bootstrap from a binary for Ada,
    it didn't feel appropriate.
    
    (Planned to do this anyway but the issue mentioned in
    9732ef3475830dbe289fc80358613e90b612563c pushed me to get on with it now.)
    
    Later versions of ada-bootstrap will be our own binaries for both
    newer GCC as a base (although this is mostly a nice-to-have and to keep
    things building rather than it being essential, AFAIK) as well as more
    importantly musl and other arch support.
    
    For that future work, see https://bugs.gentoo.org/940471#c1 for a
    suggestion from Luke A. Guest. That will be tracked in bug #940472.
    
    Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/547358
    Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/919667
    Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/940472
    Closes: https://bugs.gentoo.org/940471
    Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>

 dev-lang/ada-bootstrap/Manifest                    |   5 +
 .../ada-bootstrap/ada-bootstrap-0_p2021.ebuild     | 183 +++++++++++++++++++++
 .../files/ada-bootstrap-0_p2021-gentoo.patch       |  72 ++++++++
 .../files/gcc-configure-texinfo.patch              |  16 ++
 dev-lang/ada-bootstrap/metadata.xml                |   7 +
 5 files changed, 283 insertions(+)
Comment 3 Sam James archtester Gentoo Infrastructure gentoo-dev Security 2024-10-01 03:42:29 UTC
I'm going to polish the ebuild a bit and sleep on it a bit too then can see about doing newer versions with our own tarballs for more arches...
Comment 4 Sam James archtester Gentoo Infrastructure gentoo-dev Security 2024-12-15 16:51:31 UTC
commit 1b5d47858780c700e706582aa370a69148552055
Author: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
Date:   Wed Nov 20 11:59:35 2024 +0000

    toolchain.eclass: fix Ada bootstrap paths for cross

    Same sort of thing as 434a6775ce93a15ef517478565a938aa73d1d528 although
    the paths are different as we're using something from libexec (gnat1).

    Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>

commit 0a0b2fe6aadb9d0c3b41fdabb21535659c839bf5
Author: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
Date:   Wed Nov 20 12:15:05 2024 +0000

    toolchain.eclass: followup Ada fix

    Followup to 1b5d47858780c700e706582aa370a69148552055.

    Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>

commit 97069fd8721ea55980e548b9cf1d55e2a234a514
Author: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
Date:   Wed Nov 20 12:20:00 2024 +0000

    toolchain.eclass: another Ada cross fix

    Followup followup to 0a0b2fe6aadb9d0c3b41fdabb21535659c839bf5 and
    1b5d47858780c700e706582aa370a69148552055.

    Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>

commit 839a158bb5efbf454e09414e96cd7716a2550f31
Author: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
Date:   Wed Nov 20 12:36:08 2024 +0000

    toolchain.eclass: revert Ada changes for now

    I need to do some more. Revert my earlier changes for now.

    Reverts: 97069fd8721ea55980e548b9cf1d55e2a234a514
    Reverts: 0a0b2fe6aadb9d0c3b41fdabb21535659c839bf5
    Reverts: 1b5d47858780c700e706582aa370a69148552055
    Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>

commit f18b12262d54db706be91f22c070c52294084007
Author: Andrei Horodniceanu <a.horodniceanu@proton.me>
Date:   Thu Oct 17 18:08:40 2024 +0300

    toolchain.eclass: refactor common ada and d bootstrap code

    Additionally, when cross compiling only look for a bootstrap gcc that
    matches the SLOT that is currently being built since both ada and d
    would fail with any other version.

    Also correct some CBUILD vs CHOST usage to support cross-compiling ada.

    Signed-off-by: Andrei Horodniceanu <a.horodniceanu@proton.me>
    Closes: https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/pull/39019
    Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>

commit 148b773c86ce9a1b6e97fadde809652938236c59
Author: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
Date:   Sat Dec 14 16:24:27 2024 +0000

    toolchain.eclass: only make gnat* tool wrappers for native builds

    Only make the wrappers for native builds. For cross, we can't
    do it as CBUILD vs CHOST will get mixed up then.

    Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>

commit 9c0077a62d40b6b7078ff75c883f3b33cd8ecca9
Author: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
Date:   Sat Dec 14 18:41:27 2024 +0000

    toolchain.eclass: prepare for dev-lang/ada-bootstrap with diff version

    Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>

commit 407beaa9de0f6d3056b71d5144cd7205ae413a6f
Author: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
Date:   Sun Dec 15 03:05:12 2024 +0000

    toolchain.eclass: set ADA_{INCLUDE,OBJECTS}_DIR for new ada-bootstrap path

    For self-built ada-bootstrpa tarballs, we need this to help find
    the runtime library.

    Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
Comment 5 Sam James archtester Gentoo Infrastructure gentoo-dev Security 2024-12-15 16:52:01 UTC
(In reply to Sam James from comment #4)

With these, cross seems to work properly, and I have a draft for ada-bootstrap w/ self-built tarballs for arm64 (that I've then tested using on arm64 too). Trying other arches...
Comment 6 Larry the Git Cow gentoo-dev 2024-12-17 10:53:54 UTC
The bug has been referenced in the following commit(s):

https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=cae8f6ff8f9a857ba3a07371d6b2d5d8996afb5f

commit cae8f6ff8f9a857ba3a07371d6b2d5d8996afb5f
Author:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
AuthorDate: 2024-11-20 15:56:43 +0000
Commit:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
CommitDate: 2024-12-17 10:53:15 +0000

    dev-lang/ada-bootstrap: add 14
    
    This adds bootstrap tarballs for GNAT for the following platforms:
    * aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu
    * armv6j-softfp-linux-gnueabi
    * armv6j-unknown-linux-gnueabihf
    * armv7a-softfp-linux-gnueabi
    * armv7a-unknown-linux-gnueabihf
    * powerpc-unknown-linux-gnu
    * powerpc64-unknown-linux-gnu
    * powerpc64le-unknown-linux-gnu
    * sparc64-unknown-linux-gnu
    
    More are planned (like HPPA, but I had an issue there when using the
    built tarball; I don't think the tarball was to blame, rather some
    deeper issue needing investigation) but this feels like a decent set
    to start with.
    
    We should also of course build a fresh one for amd64 and also x86.
    
    They were built using a script [0] using stage3-amd64-hardened-systemd-20241214T201851Z.tar.xz
    with ::gentoo state around 16th November 2024 (I say "around" as I synced
    in-between to get an eclass fix).
    
    NOTE: I've only added ~arm64 for now as I've tested the binary there
    to bootstrap GNAT natively. I'll add other keywords once tested.
    
    [0] https://github.com/thesamesam/sam-gentoo-scripts/blob/91558fb51c56a661d6f374507888ff67725ca660/build-ada-bootstraps
    
    Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/940472
    Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>

 dev-lang/ada-bootstrap/Manifest                |  9 +++
 dev-lang/ada-bootstrap/ada-bootstrap-14.ebuild | 84 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 2 files changed, 93 insertions(+)
Comment 7 Larry the Git Cow gentoo-dev 2024-12-17 10:57:10 UTC
The bug has been referenced in the following commit(s):

https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=0c902867933a8388b80f72aaf4f66546e76bc880

commit 0c902867933a8388b80f72aaf4f66546e76bc880
Author:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
AuthorDate: 2024-12-17 10:56:33 +0000
Commit:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
CommitDate: 2024-12-17 10:56:33 +0000

    profiles/arch/arm64: unmask sys-devel/gcc[ada] for ~arch
    
    We have dev-lang/ada-bootstrap available here now.
    
    Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/940472
    Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>

 profiles/arch/arm64/package.use.mask        | 4 ++++
 profiles/arch/arm64/package.use.stable.mask | 4 ++++
 2 files changed, 8 insertions(+)
Comment 8 Larry the Git Cow gentoo-dev 2024-12-17 12:22:56 UTC
The bug has been referenced in the following commit(s):

https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=5bb8b81487743b3e643c5a332d256cb69aca4569

commit 5bb8b81487743b3e643c5a332d256cb69aca4569
Author:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
AuthorDate: 2024-12-17 12:21:42 +0000
Commit:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
CommitDate: 2024-12-17 12:21:42 +0000

    dev-lang/ada-bootstrap: handle arches where we have multiple tarballs available
    
    Otherwise, we might have ${A} containing more than one and then we unpack
    the last one listed (which isn't necessarily right at all) and also fail
    w/ wrong number of args to dosym.
    
    Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/940472
    Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>

 dev-lang/ada-bootstrap/ada-bootstrap-14.ebuild | 24 +++++++++++++++++++++++-
 1 file changed, 23 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
Comment 9 Larry the Git Cow gentoo-dev 2024-12-17 17:14:05 UTC
The bug has been referenced in the following commit(s):

https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=14e674bb7a8cb8aa50498582e392d0ecd21f2d4a

commit 14e674bb7a8cb8aa50498582e392d0ecd21f2d4a
Author:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
AuthorDate: 2024-12-17 17:13:11 +0000
Commit:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
CommitDate: 2024-12-17 17:13:52 +0000

    toolchain.eclass: allow current slot for ada-bootstrap dep
    
    Otherwise, you don't get a clean path for 14-with-14.
    
    Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/940472
    Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>

 eclass/toolchain.eclass | 31 ++++++++++++++++++++++---------
 1 file changed, 22 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-)
Comment 10 Larry the Git Cow gentoo-dev 2024-12-17 18:08:48 UTC
The bug has been referenced in the following commit(s):

https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=86445b99cf4369b48b0c8edd0c13b89f1fa0fb2a

commit 86445b99cf4369b48b0c8edd0c13b89f1fa0fb2a
Author:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
AuthorDate: 2024-12-17 18:08:15 +0000
Commit:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
CommitDate: 2024-12-17 18:08:15 +0000

    profiles/arch/arm: unmask sys-devel/gcc[ada] for ~arch
    
    We have dev-lang/ada-bootstrap available here now.
    
    Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/940472
    Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>

 profiles/arch/arm/package.use.mask        | 4 ++++
 profiles/arch/arm/package.use.stable.mask | 4 ++++
 2 files changed, 8 insertions(+)

https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=ff3d8ef80d13310cdbb2f3c55fe15d410e18c649

commit ff3d8ef80d13310cdbb2f3c55fe15d410e18c649
Author:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
AuthorDate: 2024-12-17 18:06:54 +0000
Commit:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
CommitDate: 2024-12-17 18:06:54 +0000

    dev-lang/ada-bootstrap: keyword 14 for ~arm
    
    Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/940472
    Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>

 dev-lang/ada-bootstrap/ada-bootstrap-14.ebuild | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
Comment 11 Larry the Git Cow gentoo-dev 2024-12-17 19:00:24 UTC
The bug has been referenced in the following commit(s):

https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=e21c238fb003ff68952be18ea2be4b1e87890166

commit e21c238fb003ff68952be18ea2be4b1e87890166
Author:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
AuthorDate: 2024-12-17 18:59:39 +0000
Commit:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
CommitDate: 2024-12-17 19:00:02 +0000

    profiles/arch/sparc: unmask sys-devel/gcc[ada] for ~arch
    
    We have dev-lang/ada-bootstrap available here now.
    
    Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/940472
    Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>

 profiles/arch/sparc/package.use.mask        | 4 ++++
 profiles/arch/sparc/package.use.stable.mask | 4 ++++
 2 files changed, 8 insertions(+)

https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=72edef15f5fd864ec384a6de8fb464111faa01a1

commit 72edef15f5fd864ec384a6de8fb464111faa01a1
Author:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
AuthorDate: 2024-12-17 18:58:43 +0000
Commit:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
CommitDate: 2024-12-17 19:00:02 +0000

    dev-lang/ada-bootstrap: keyword 14 for ~sparc
    
    Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/940472
    Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>

 dev-lang/ada-bootstrap/ada-bootstrap-14.ebuild | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
Comment 12 Larry the Git Cow gentoo-dev 2024-12-17 19:07:53 UTC
The bug has been referenced in the following commit(s):

https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=19a54aa47f0d232f7de2f1cd6a16f8aadd6b6add

commit 19a54aa47f0d232f7de2f1cd6a16f8aadd6b6add
Author:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
AuthorDate: 2024-12-17 19:07:13 +0000
Commit:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
CommitDate: 2024-12-17 19:07:33 +0000

    profiles/arch/powerpc: unmask sys-devel/gcc[ada] for ~arch
    
    We have dev-lang/ada-bootstrap available here now.
    
    Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/940472
    Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>

 profiles/arch/powerpc/ppc32/package.use.mask        | 4 ++++
 profiles/arch/powerpc/ppc32/package.use.stable.mask | 4 ++++
 profiles/arch/powerpc/ppc64/package.use.mask        | 4 ++++
 profiles/arch/powerpc/ppc64/package.use.stable.mask | 4 ++++
 4 files changed, 16 insertions(+)

https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=33c31288bb05f026b1dfca730701b4b4727110ec

commit 33c31288bb05f026b1dfca730701b4b4727110ec
Author:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
AuthorDate: 2024-12-17 19:06:12 +0000
Commit:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
CommitDate: 2024-12-17 19:07:33 +0000

    dev-lang/ada-bootstrap: keyword 14 for ~ppc, ~ppc64
    
    Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/940472
    Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>

 dev-lang/ada-bootstrap/ada-bootstrap-14.ebuild | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
Comment 13 Larry the Git Cow gentoo-dev 2024-12-18 01:49:10 UTC
The bug has been referenced in the following commit(s):

https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=a73baf031bc6e4b613ae181491fedfa3e8437232

commit a73baf031bc6e4b613ae181491fedfa3e8437232
Author:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
AuthorDate: 2024-12-18 01:47:04 +0000
Commit:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
CommitDate: 2024-12-18 01:48:33 +0000

    dev-lang/ada-bootstrap: add amd64 binary too for 14
    
    Same details as in cae8f6ff8f9a857ba3a07371d6b2d5d8996afb5f for how it
    was built, but with tree state on 17th November 2024 and not built w/
    crossdev.
    
    Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/940472
    Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>

 dev-lang/ada-bootstrap/Manifest                | 1 +
 dev-lang/ada-bootstrap/ada-bootstrap-14.ebuild | 3 +++
 2 files changed, 4 insertions(+)
Comment 14 Larry the Git Cow gentoo-dev 2024-12-18 03:15:38 UTC
The bug has been referenced in the following commit(s):

https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=ed556e48e7f886ecc0e9954ee5906c3b4d197b1a

commit ed556e48e7f886ecc0e9954ee5906c3b4d197b1a
Author:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
AuthorDate: 2024-12-18 03:14:41 +0000
Commit:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
CommitDate: 2024-12-18 03:14:50 +0000

    dev-lang/ada-bootstrap: keyword 14 for amd64
    
    Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/940472
    Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>

 dev-lang/ada-bootstrap/ada-bootstrap-14.ebuild | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
Comment 15 Larry the Git Cow gentoo-dev 2024-12-18 23:17:13 UTC
The bug has been referenced in the following commit(s):

https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=908f1f548d41b61b66cb36661ca0866ca55d6e36

commit 908f1f548d41b61b66cb36661ca0866ca55d6e36
Author:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
AuthorDate: 2024-12-18 23:12:10 +0000
Commit:     Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>
CommitDate: 2024-12-18 23:15:24 +0000

    dev-lang/ada-bootstrap: add bootstrap binaries for loong, riscv, s390*
    
    Same details as cae8f6ff8f9a857ba3a07371d6b2d5d8996afb5f although I built
    it at the same time as amd64 (see a73baf031bc6e4b613ae181491fedfa3e8437232).
    
    This one was a bit delayed as wasn't included in the first batch because
    they're pure ~arch (TODO: find a way to handle that more nicely in the
    script to use stable for stable arches, and not otherwise; could grep
    arches.desc?)
    
    We have alpha, hppa, mips, m68k, and x86 left. m68k wasn't done yet
    because its current GCC is 13 still b/c of a bootstrap failure.
    
    Bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/940472
    Signed-off-by: Sam James <sam@gentoo.org>

 dev-lang/ada-bootstrap/Manifest                |  4 ++++
 dev-lang/ada-bootstrap/ada-bootstrap-14.ebuild | 10 ++++++++++
 2 files changed, 14 insertions(+)
Comment 16 Sam James archtester Gentoo Infrastructure gentoo-dev Security 2024-12-18 23:19:23 UTC
I think we're all done here -- I'll file individual bugs for the remaining arches, but not much point in keeping this one open still.