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Bug 302722 - games-misc/fortune-mod-{discworld,dune}: bad LICENSE
Summary: games-misc/fortune-mod-{discworld,dune}: bad LICENSE
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Linux
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Current packages (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: Normal normal
Assignee: Gentoo Games
URL:
Whiteboard: Pending removal: 2020-03-06
Keywords: PMASKED
: 302858 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks: 634288 free-noncomm-license
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Reported: 2010-01-29 06:40 UTC by Ulrich Müller
Modified: 2020-03-04 16:55 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Description Ulrich Müller gentoo-dev 2010-01-29 06:40:26 UTC
The ebuild claims LICENSE="free-noncomm", but neither in the tarball nor on the former homepage <http://web.archive.org/web/20040330202652/http://dune.s31.pl/>
I can find any license at all.

Also both HOMEPAGE and SRC_URI no longer exist.
Comment 1 Mr. Bones. (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2010-01-29 06:43:53 UTC
What's your point.  The files are mirrored, the homepage is "nice to have" but not interesting if it's missing and free-noncomm is probably as good as any.
Comment 2 Ulrich Müller gentoo-dev 2010-01-29 07:03:28 UTC
The package has no license at all, Dune is probably still copyrighted, so it's even doubtful if we are allowed to redistribute this package at all.

And no, just adding something random as LICENSE is not o.k.
Comment 3 Mr. Bones. (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2010-01-29 07:10:37 UTC
They're quotes.  It's not a license issue.
Comment 4 Ulrich Müller gentoo-dev 2010-01-29 07:13:56 UTC
Similar issue for fortune-mod-discworld, GPL-2 is plain wrong.
README says: "The entire text is copyrighted by the rightful owners."
Comment 5 Mr. Bones. (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2010-01-29 07:17:36 UTC
punted.  Thanks for nothing Ulrich.
Comment 6 Ulrich Müller gentoo-dev 2010-01-29 07:45:59 UTC
*sigh* I didn't ask for removal of these packages. We should really go for a pragmatic solution here.

And sorry for being obnoxious about it, but if our LICENSE strings don't reflect reality, then we can punt the whole ACCEPT_LICENSE feature.

There are even more in fortune-mod-* affected by this, i.e. collections of short quotes from copyrighted material.

@licenses: Could we add some license like "fair-use" (as in <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Fair_use>) for such packages?
Comment 7 Mr. Bones. (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2010-01-29 07:49:04 UTC
fair use isn't a license.  It's not even a concept that is the same between countries.
Comment 8 Ulrich Müller gentoo-dev 2010-01-29 07:51:19 UTC
(In reply to comment #7)
> fair use isn't a license.  It's not even a concept that is the same between
> countries.

So is "public-domain", but we have it too.
Comment 9 Mr. Bones. (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2010-01-29 07:59:13 UTC
So I guess your point is that all the packages that claim public-domain as the license need "fixing" as well.
Comment 10 Ulrich Müller gentoo-dev 2010-01-29 10:53:09 UTC
(In reply to comment #9)
> So I guess your point is that all the packages that claim public-domain as
> the license need "fixing" as well.

On the contrary: We have "public-domain", so if we think that these collections of quotations are acceptable, then we could as well have something describing them, even if it's not a license in the strict sense. (Maybe RESTRICT="mirror" would also be wise in these cases.)

My only intention when filing this bug was that LICENSE should reflect the real license of the package. We shouldn't claim "free-noncomm" or "GPL-2" if it isn't true, otherwise the ACCEPT_LICENSE feature makes no sense.

Comment 11 SpanKY gentoo-dev 2010-01-30 18:44:04 UTC
*** Bug 302858 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 12 SpanKY gentoo-dev 2010-01-30 18:45:33 UTC
mr bones' point is simple: he doesnt care about the licensing.  neither do i.  if you really want these things to be exact, just make the damned change yourself.  it's much less of a hassle for us to simply punt this than to go back and forth over crap we absolutely dont care about.
Comment 13 Ulrich Müller gentoo-dev 2010-01-30 20:05:27 UTC
I've restored fortune-mod-{dune,discworld}.

Just do what you want, I won't report games issues any more, in order not to be insulted by you.

Comment 14 Marcello Magaldi 2010-01-30 20:26:07 UTC
(In reply to comment #13)
> I've restored fortune-mod-{dune,discworld}.
> 
> Just do what you want, I won't report games issues any more, in order not to be
> insulted by you.
> 

Mine purpose in bug #302858 was to understand why fortune-mod-dune was removed, I didn't know about license issues discussed here and I didn't intend to complain about it, I only wanted to know what happened, and now I know it.

I don't think that gentoo's bugzilla is the appropriate place to insult someone else and I don't think that one developer should decide about a package due to insults, the point is to understand what's the right thing to do, if the package isn't appropriate due to its license issues or ambiguity to be in portage it shouldn't be in portage, also if someone else want this package.
I'm really sorry about what happend also because I opened the bug and the discussion as well.
Comment 15 Ulrich Müller gentoo-dev 2010-01-30 20:35:12 UTC
Marcello: You haven't done anything wrong, so there's no need for you to justify yourself. Thank you for reporting bug 302858.
Comment 16 SpanKY gentoo-dev 2010-01-31 08:00:31 UTC
i'm being real: some people care about licensing, but those people arent us.  if you do, make whatever changes to the value of LICENSE=... in games ebuilds you feel like.
Comment 17 Ulrich Müller gentoo-dev 2019-12-09 10:25:06 UTC
This isn't exactly "fixed", therefore reopening.
Comment 18 Ulrich Müller gentoo-dev 2020-02-05 01:07:20 UTC
# Ulrich Müller <ulm@gentoo.org> (2020-02-04)
# No license; copyright status unclear.
# "The entire text is copyrighted by the rightful owners."
# Masked for removal in 30 days. Bugs #302722, #634288.
games-misc/fortune-mod-discworld
games-misc/fortune-mod-hitchhiker
games-misc/fortune-mod-simpsons-chalkboard
games-misc/fortune-mod-starwars

# Ulrich Müller <ulm@gentoo.org> (2020-02-04)
# No license; copyright status unclear.
# HOMEPAGE and SRC_URI are gone.
# Masked for removal in 30 days. Bugs #302722, #634288, #703714.
games-misc/fortune-mod-dune
Comment 19 Larry the Git Cow gentoo-dev 2020-03-04 16:55:38 UTC
The bug has been closed via the following commit(s):

https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/commit/?id=a12b2faed545daa3f495af2e2807e60af2580227

commit a12b2faed545daa3f495af2e2807e60af2580227
Author:     Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org>
AuthorDate: 2020-03-04 16:52:14 +0000
Commit:     Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org>
CommitDate: 2020-03-04 16:52:14 +0000

    games-misc/fortune-mod-discworld: Remove last-rited pkg
    
    Closes: https://bugs.gentoo.org/302722
    Signed-off-by: Michał Górny <mgorny@gentoo.org>

 games-misc/fortune-mod-discworld/Manifest          |  1 -
 .../fortune-mod-discworld-0.1.ebuild               | 23 ----------------------
 games-misc/fortune-mod-discworld/metadata.xml      |  8 --------
 profiles/package.mask                              |  1 -
 4 files changed, 33 deletions(-)