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Bug 9674 - xawdecode-1.6.5.ebuild (new)
Summary: xawdecode-1.6.5.ebuild (new)
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Linux
Classification: Unclassified
Component: New packages (show other bugs)
Hardware: x86 Linux
: High enhancement (vote)
Assignee: Seemant Kulleen (RETIRED)
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Reported: 2002-10-25 17:42 UTC by Christian Loitsch
Modified: 2003-03-16 15:25 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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Attachments
ebuild (xawdecode-1.6.5.ebuild,2.27 KB, application/octet-stream)
2002-10-25 17:43 UTC, Christian Loitsch
Details
plugins ebuild (xawdecode-plugin-1.4.1.ebuild,681 bytes, application/octet-stream)
2002-10-25 17:44 UTC, Christian Loitsch
Details

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Description Christian Loitsch 2002-10-25 17:42:46 UTC
TV application for the bttv driver allowing decoding

I will also attach an ebuild for its plugins.

without plugins xawdecode doesn't do much better then xawtv, but with the
plugins xawdecode allows decoding of premiere (germany) and canal+ (france).

I don't know if there are any legal issues in distributing these programs.
As xawdecode can't do anything unusual without its plugins it shouldn't pose any
problems.  I'm not so sure about its plugins though.  Anyway, they are useless
as long as the file: key.txt is missing.
Comment 1 Christian Loitsch 2002-10-25 17:43:51 UTC
Created attachment 5018 [details]
ebuild
Comment 2 Christian Loitsch 2002-10-25 17:44:54 UTC
Created attachment 5019 [details]
plugins ebuild
Comment 3 Seemant Kulleen (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-01-16 06:24:45 UTC
Christian, can you find out about the legalities of this?
Comment 4 Christian Loitsch 2003-01-24 20:03:03 UTC
Sorry, I tried to find out, but did not get any useful answers.

There is a strange law in France, which says that it is not allowed to decode
Canal+.  I also heard, that ISP hosting xawdecode were asked (by C+) to remove
it from their servers, but it is possible that because of this the plugins were
created (this is just a pure guess!).

Anyway, even without the plugins, there is a real reason for using xawdecode
instead of xawtv --> teletext.

Their is also the interesting aspect, that gentoo would only provide the
ebuild., which only installs xawdecode.
Comment 5 Seemant Kulleen (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-02-11 20:56:57 UTC
Doc, I need your legal insight on this bug please?
Comment 6 Olivier Reisch (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-02-12 15:39:21 UTC
First of all, never qualify a law as "strange" because it doesn't fit into your path. 
 
The French Law applying to this piece of software is the "Law on the Liberty of 
Communication" aka. "Audiovisual Law" of 30 september 1986, as amended. Article 
79-1 of said Law expressely prohibits the use, detention, creation or distribution of 
any mean that allows accessing TV programs that otherwise are restricted to a 
closed public. This is a criminal prohibition exposing anyone creating, distribution or 
using such mean to a sentence of 2 years of emprisonment and/or a fine of 30000 
EURO (roughly $30000). 
 
I am not positive whether other Law systems have a disposition that well tailored to 
our case, but I am absolutely positive that the creation and distribution of such mean 
would still be restricted by common IP Law, be it local or international IP Law. 
 
Last but not least, said French based company Canal+ has already taken legal 
steps in the past to limit the distribution of xawdecode by delivering legal warrants to 
several ISPs hosting xawdecode. Similiar steps have been taken against other, 
similiar projects in the past 2 or 3 years. 
 
In the meantime, xawdecode has given up on their decryption code which is no 
longer distributed with the main source code. However, the code is still available as 
plugin. 
 
As far as I can see, the current (anything after 1.4.0) plain source code for 
xawdecode does not seem to fall into specific regulations, as it doesn't allow 
anything more than a normal TV set would do. Thus I guess we can safely put that 
ebuild into Portage. 
 
As for the plugin ebuild, it is definitely an illegal item and would expose Gentoo as 
well as their userbase to legal action. Looking alone at the risk taken for French 
Gentoo users, we couldn't afford making it publicly available. And as I said, even if 
you are not French, you may still be sued by any of the companies that could claim 
a breach of their  encryption technology on behalf of common IP Law. 
 
The plugin ebuild should thus be discarded. 
Comment 7 Seemant Kulleen (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-03-16 15:25:11 UTC
thanks christian, added to portage. (without plugins)