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Bug 9125 - USB timeouts and other problems w/ APIC and/or Uniprocessor APIC enabled
Summary: USB timeouts and other problems w/ APIC and/or Uniprocessor APIC enabled
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Linux
Classification: Unclassified
Component: [OLD] Core system (show other bugs)
Hardware: x86 Linux
: Normal normal (vote)
Assignee: x86-kernel@gentoo.org (DEPRECATED)
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: 14715 (view as bug list)
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Reported: 2002-10-14 11:58 UTC by Neil Birchler
Modified: 2003-09-22 13:37 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Description Neil Birchler 2002-10-14 11:58:24 UTC
noticed this the other night while fiddling around with a test kernel. i kept 
getting timeout errors on my mouse and other USB devices. finally tracked it 
down to having APIC enabled in the kernel. i disabled APIC and viola!, 
everything worked fine. probably outta post to the kernel mailing list also.

Platform: AthlonXP 1800+ on VIA VT8367(KT333) / VT8233A motherboard
          512MB RAM, tulip network card driver, no IRQ conflicts
Comment 1 Brandon Low (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2002-10-15 08:01:58 UTC
what kernel?
Comment 2 Brandon Low (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-01-09 15:04:27 UTC
Let me know what kernel you had this problem on, and then test on the latest
lolo-sources.  Thanks.
Comment 3 Max Loparev 2003-01-26 04:11:53 UTC
I have the same problem but I localized it.
It is NEW acpi code problem, when I manually reverse patch on kernel all works
fine (exсept that from this time I loose all information in /proc/acpi, it's not
normal because reverce patching completes without errors ) . I try
2.4.20-xfs_pre5 and 2.4.20-gentoo-r1. BTW, I found there is no way to turn off
acpi patch in this kernels and the sentence about patching gentoo-sources with
acpi only if USE contains acpi4linux is not true(i found that in patches.txt for
gentoo-sources)! In addition KERNEL_EXCLUDE="acpi" brakes emerge on this two
type of sources! Seems that you (gentoo kernel team) applying all patches
cumulative rather than one by one for making availible KERNEL_EXCLUDE to work as
it must.
Comment 4 Martin Holzer (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-01-29 12:50:11 UTC
*** Bug 14715 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 5 Martin Holzer (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-01-29 12:54:52 UTC
max: should i reopen this ?
Comment 6 Max Loparev 2003-01-29 13:42:33 UTC
martin: it's good that you ask :) I think yes, this bug need to be reopened.
Comment 7 Max Loparev 2003-03-25 08:24:27 UTC
the bug still here in xfs-sources-2.4.20-r2 i.e. with last ACPI update
but KERNEL_EXCLUDE="acpi" now works
Comment 8 Jay Pfeifer (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-07-10 20:53:34 UTC
glad to hear kernel exclude works. however, some acpi implementations are in need of a bios update in order to fully support the latest acpi patches. if no such update exists from your hardware vendor and you run into acpi related problems you either boot with acpi=off or disable it in your config.

Not much more I can offer since the issue really comes down to your hardware supporting the latest acpi spec.

Jay
Comment 9 Max Loparev 2003-07-12 06:36:18 UTC
O! thats great! I've just update my BIOS but situation is the same. And how can you explain that ACPI worked with old linux ACPI implementation, worked on windows, and only new linux ACPI code not working with any modern chipset for AMD that i try? Is it Intel sponsorship program? I have this problems with ACPI on Epox 8K9A(KT400) and Asus A7N8X(NForce2). Can you name the motherboard for AMD processors that worked with new linux ACPI code?
Comment 10 Jay Pfeifer (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-07-12 09:02:40 UTC
here's an answer - cd to a kernel with updated acpi 
ie. /usr/src/linux-2.4.20-gentoo-r5/drivers/acpi/ or 
/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-pfeifer-r1_pre2/drivers/acpi 
 
grep -in intel * 
grep -in amd * 
 
that ought to let you know who is running the acpi show. 
 
Jay 
Comment 11 Max Loparev 2003-07-12 10:12:33 UTC
so, if the new ACPI code supports only intel chipsets, why it is not documented anywhere?

I write you about exactly next: if some hardware worked under one software version and become unworkable under next new software version than this means that something broken in software. isn't it?

btw your comparision is also wrong because of I'm using non AMD chipset and ACPI support independed of the processor manufacturer
Comment 12 Jay Pfeifer (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-07-12 12:16:08 UTC
i never said it only supports intel only. i was just showing that intel is the company that is 
providing and backing the acpi4linux project. therefore, chipsets like nforce2, amd, and via 
may not always have the same support. and those companies may not implent it to spec in 
their chipset(s). 
 
comparison wrong? oh - ok - what did i compare? - nothing. 
 
also, if it worked on the older version but not on the newer - that is your problem. get 
hardware to support the new stuff or get your hardware manufacturer to work with the newer 
stuff. Who said ACPI is backwards compatible? And alot of manufacturers have incomplete or 
buggy ACPI support. Again, that is your issue. 
 
Jay 
Comment 13 Max Loparev 2003-07-12 13:13:07 UTC
thanks a lot 
but I really don't need to write a bug report to understand that i have a problem! and thanks, now I know than noone in this bugtracking system, really, don't needed of mine reports, because it's not theyer problem.

but I hope, that serious commercical organizations, which making the buisness with Linux, don't agree with your opinion.

P.S.
>grep -in intel * 
>grep -in amd *
this is your words and you are wrong

P.P.S. I don't want flaming any longer, you are describe your point of view clearly.
Comment 14 Max Loparev 2003-09-22 13:37:35 UTC
2Jay
Hi, i think that it would be intresting for you
Alan Cox in his last ac4 patch for 2.4.22 correct that what you claim buggy BIOS and you can be sure that he didn't send me any BIOS updates he is just make the code workable.
Now everithing work fine. and only now that bug report can have status RESOLVED and FIXED.

Best regards, Max