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Bug 86938 - Firebird 1.0.2 is difficult to use with threads
Summary: Firebird 1.0.2 is difficult to use with threads
Status: RESOLVED UPSTREAM
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Linux
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Current packages (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: High enhancement (vote)
Assignee: Mozilla Gentoo Team
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Reported: 2005-03-28 00:05 UTC by Kimmo Sundqvist
Modified: 2005-03-28 12:23 UTC (History)
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Description Kimmo Sundqvist 2005-03-28 00:05:55 UTC
There are many interrelated suggestions I'd like to make for Mozilla Firebird.  These are about the newsreader functionality.

1. An easy way to display the group as threads.  Now I must go into a submenu.  I have no elegant suggestions for how to handle this.  Maybe a toolbar button or a keyboard shortcut?

2. Changing sort order disables showing as threads.  I always feel this is an accident, and that sort order and threaded/not threaded should be independent of each other.

3. After changing to threads, all threads are expanded.  This inevitably leads everyone to collapse all threads (from a submenu, though I again and again discover that it has a keyboard shortcut too) and then re-expand those that are needed.  After changing to threaded view, all threads should be collapsed by default.

4. The whole thread is either expanded or collapsed.  I most of the time, with long and complicated discussions, have the need to collapse just a part of a gigantic thread that I've already gone through, to make the rest of the thread easier to handle.

5. When entering a newsgroup, I've had problems with Thunderbird expanding a thread I wasn't reading the last time I was in that group.  Often the thread that gets expanded is the biggest one, and most of the time I've had nothing to do with it.

This is not related to whether "Remember the last selected message" is set or unset in General preferences.

I tried quitting and reloading Thunderbird.  I picked a newsgroup.  A giant thread was in expanded state.  I picked another newsgroup.  There were no expanded threads.  Went back to the first one, and Thunderbird didn't expand the giant thread anymore, but sooner or later it will do it again.  This is unpredictable, and thus a nuisance.  If I ever discover which feature it is, I hope I'm able to disable it.

6. When the subthread collapse/expand is implemented, I think the user will see from the text style if it is read, unread or partially both, as is now the case with whole threads.  I'd like to also see if the subthread contains messages written by me.  Now I only see if I have replied to the message at the root of the (sub)thread.  I'm not suggesting that the two signals be mixed in any way.  The green arrow is good, and the other signal should be clearly different.

7. I think it should be configurable whether the group opens in "last remembered state" or all threads collapsed.  I'd always use the latter.
Comment 1 Stian Skjelstad 2005-03-28 07:10:55 UTC
This should be posted upstream to the makers of the mozilla products. They are always requesting for input about missing features and how to make their software more userfriendly.
Comment 2 Caleb Tennis (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2005-03-28 12:23:43 UTC
Certainly, this should be posted to the Mozilla project's system - http://www.mozilla.org/support/ for more info.