Is this feature and I have to let Portage do it or a bug/mistake please? 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(-abi_riscv_lp64d%)" 0 KiB -cut- emerge --info Portage 3.0.18 (python 3.7.10-final-0, default/linux/amd64/17.1/no-multilib, gcc-10.2.0, glibc-2.33, 5.11.11-gentoo x86_64) ================================================================= System uname: Linux-5.11.11-gentoo-x86_64-AMD_Ryzen_7_3800X_8-Core_Processor-with-gentoo-2.7 KiB Mem: 65846480 total, 28924148 free KiB Swap: 0 total, 0 free Timestamp of repository gentoo: Wed, 07 Apr 2021 06:00:01 +0000 Head commit of repository gentoo: 2c6d7eb8057ca361a82f0159609f137855c7e706 sh bash 5.1_p4 ld GNU ld (Gentoo 2.35.2 p1) 2.35.2 app-shells/bash: 5.1_p4::gentoo dev-java/java-config: 2.3.1::gentoo dev-lang/perl: 5.32.1::gentoo dev-lang/python: 2.7.18_p8::gentoo, 3.7.10_p1::gentoo dev-lang/rust-bin: 1.51.0::gentoo dev-util/cmake: 3.20.0::gentoo sys-apps/baselayout: 2.7-r1::gentoo sys-apps/openrc: 0.43.1::gentoo sys-apps/sandbox: 2.22::gentoo sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13-r1::gentoo, 2.69-r5::gentoo sys-devel/automake: 1.16.3-r1::gentoo 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What command are you using? —-changed-use (-U) instead of —newuse (-N) should prevent this - it’s also far less wasteful and generally more useful. Full output too?
Created attachment 698079 [details] Emerge full output
I am using emerge -pvuND @world normally. I will try to replace -N by -U, thank you.
There is only one rebuild after your suggested change in emerge's options: [ebuild U ] media-libs/sdl2-image-2.0.5_p20210328::gentoo [2.0.5::gentoo] USE="gif jpeg png tiff webp -static-libs (-abi_riscv_lp64%) (-abi_riscv_lp64d%)" 12 107 KiB Can I close the "bug" please?
Should the handbook step that teaches all new users about `--newuse` be changed to `--changed-use`? https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Base#Updating_the_.40world_set
Created attachment 698184 [details] emerge --newuse output Same problem here. I'm on stable amd64. I'm using —newuse (-N) for *years*. The main question is : why does some riscv_lp64 ABI related stuff suddenly popup into USE flag configuration on stable AMD64 profile ? Is this expected behavior ? I don't think so. Can someone confirm ?
(In reply to Fab from comment #6) > Created attachment 698184 [details] > emerge --newuse output > > Same problem here. > > I'm on stable amd64. I'm using —newuse (-N) for *years*. > Then you’ve recompiled plenty of programs when USE changes didn’t affect you. Suppose you recompile libxml2 with Python 3.8 one day. When 3.6, 3.7 get dropped, even if they weren’t enabled on libxml2, you would rebuild it with -N. It’s a waste. > The main question is : why does some riscv_lp64 ABI related stuff suddenly > popup into USE flag configuration on stable AMD64 profile ? Is this expected > behavior ? > > I don't think so. Can someone confirm ? It’s fixing an experiment that ended up being unnecessary from years ago. So yes, it’s expected, but unfortunate. (In reply to Scott Howard from comment #5) > Should the handbook step that teaches all new users about `--newuse` be > changed to `--changed-use`? > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:AMD64/Installation/Base#Updating_the_. > 40world_set Good idea!
(In reply to Sam James from comment #7) > Then you’ve recompiled plenty of programs when USE changes didn’t affect > you. Suppose you recompile libxml2 with Python 3.8 one day. When 3.6, 3.7 > get dropped, even if they weren’t enabled on libxml2, you would rebuild it > with -N. It’s a waste. Yes I know that. But I started to use gentoo when --changed-use did not exist. Old habits. Thank you for the quick response.
*** Bug 780885 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
(In reply to Fab from comment #6) > The main question is : why does some riscv_lp64 ABI related stuff suddenly > popup into USE flag configuration on stable AMD64 profile ? Is this expected > behavior ? > > I don't think so. Can someone confirm ? This is expected behaviour according to https://projects.gentoo.org/pms/7/pms.html#x1-11000011.1.1 (see the bullet list next to the "profile-iuse-inject" label). In particular, the values of USE_EXPAND variables will be injected as use flags into the ebuild's IUSE_EFFECTIVE. Since USE_EXPAND are defined in the base profile, they will affect all profiles (i.e., ABI_RISCV will be seen in amd64 profiles). So what happened here is that ABI_RISCV was listed in USE_EXPAND at the time of your previous rebuild of these packages, so Portage had registered it in the packages' metadata in /var/db/pkg/. Removal of ABI_RISCV then triggered the rebuild. This is unavoidable, unless we would have kept the workaround indefinitely (it was in place since 2020-09-18, i.e. for about half a year).
Thanks, this explains a lot.
(In reply to Ulrich Müller from comment #10) > This is expected behaviour according to > https://projects.gentoo.org/pms/7/pms.html#x1-11000011.1.1 (see the bullet > list next to the "profile-iuse-inject" label). In particular, the values of > USE_EXPAND variables will be injected as use flags into the ebuild's > IUSE_EFFECTIVE. Since USE_EXPAND are defined in the base profile, they will > affect all profiles (i.e., ABI_RISCV will be seen in amd64 profiles). Addendum: This explanation was only partly correct, because ABI_RISCV was never listed in USE_EXPAND_IMPLICIT. So in addition, the ebuild would have to inherit multilib-build.eclass (which used to explicitly add the abi_riscv_* flags to IUSE), in order to trigger the rebuild.
Closing this since the behavior is correct, if unexpected.
