imo, these should be moved from their current category to net-news app-office/linuxtrade real-time stock market tracker and news console net-misc/rol A RSS/RDF Newsreader net-www/akregator KDE RSS aggregator. net-www/liferea News Aggregator for RDF/RSS/CDF/Atom/Echo/etc feeds net-www/pears RSS/RDF and Atom news aggregator GUI net-www/rawdog Rawdog - RSS Aggregator Without Delusions Of Grandeur net-www/snownews Snownews, a text-mode RSS/RDF newsreader net-www/straw RSS/RDF News Aggregator www-client/rabbitticker Skinnable RSS client for QT www-client/raggle A console RSS aggregator, written in Ruby www-proxy/amphetadesk AmphetaDesk is a free syndicated news aggregator
moving these packages to net-news makes sense to me. If there are no objections in a week I'll move them. Sound fair?
Actually, I don't mean to pick nits but net-news is (or was) for nntp-based software, not RSS/RDF etc. If everyone is in agreement that it should represent both, then that's fine. Otherwise a scheme like net-news -> net-nntp net-syndication Might be more appropriate.
i second that comment. net-news was traditionally usenet "news" apps.
general comment - are category descriptions stored anywhere? should they be? I'm holding off a move until consensus is reached. In fact - nets-news its your call. My gut feel is the list below doesn't justify its own category.
I've set up the net-news herd to be for NN(T|R)P-related packages only. And that are the packages that I'm currently maintaining as the maintainer of the net-news herd. I already have a bug that requests moving the "news"readers to a separate category (bug #61522). net-syndication or net-rss is fine with me. Renaming net-news to net-nntp is optional in my oppinion, because the original purpose of net-news was for NN(T|R)P-related packages and that is what it still means to me.
Swen: maybe renaming net-news to net-nntp makes sense here, because it's not the first time I see this request. As for the other options I favor net-syndication, as that is what's it all about.
So, as Dylan pointed out in comment #2 we've got two choices here: 1. Move all RSS/Atom/etc readers to net-news and abandon the original meaning of net-news. Includes using the net-news herd and net-news@g.o for RSS/Atom/etc and NN(T|R)P packages. 2. Split net-news into net-{syndication,nntp} and move all other RSS/Atom/etc readers to -syndication. That'll need the renaming of a herd (net-news -> net-nntp, for consistency reasons) and probably setting up a new herd for RSS/Atom/etc (net-syndication) packages. Damn, I miss the bugzilla vote feature. Looking at both choices, #2 is probably the cleanest way. We will end up with two relatively small categories, where on the other side we mix two different types of apps in one category. So, I vote for #2
*** Bug 61522 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
OK, no more comments counts as #2 I guess. I'm going to announce this change to gentoo-dev@ and see if anyone complains. If I don't receive any complains in a couple of days, I'm going to move the NNTP apps to net-nntp.
As Sven has already moved NNTP related packages, I'm wondering what we're going to do about RSS/RDF/Atom related programs? Is everyone else going to move them to net-news (which currently also contains blam and ersss) or are we creating net-syndication for that purpose? I just want to clear this up before I do anything about it, because we all have better things to do than moving the same packages twice.
There are about as many NNTP apps as there are RSS/RDF/Atom apps, no? Seems to make sense to put them in together - especially as some of the feed apps behave a lot like news readers.
Uhm, I don't consider packages like bnr2, nzbget and newspost, which are NNTP-clients specifically designed for downloading binary files from alt.binaries groups, equivalent to RSS/Atom readers. Same goes for NNTP-servers like inn, leafnode and sn.
Well, it seems the net-news category must have grown since my last sync. ;) Anyway, apart from the servers (which could easily have RSS/etc counterparts) those tools were not the original intention of NNTP. Likewise, I think we are bound to see similar (mis?)utilizations of RSS/etc in the future.
I think we have established that NNTP and RSS/RDF/ATOM related programs won't be in the same category from now on. My question was rather if the category for the latter should be net-news or net-syndication. Personally I don't really care where I move my 3 packages to, it just don't want to do it twice.
I have another slightly related question: how does everybody involved in this thread feel about a herd for net-syndication? I currently maintain 3 RSS readers, which belong to three different herds (web-apps, ruby, gnome).
closing out my old bugs
