I've tried all of the 0.2.x versions with several versions of kernels, linux headers, and glibc (out of desperation), and none of them have worked for me. I'm shocked to find 0.1.9-r4 removed from portage today as 0.1.9 is still the official , stable release. Please restore 0.1.9-r4 to portage for those of us who need a stable reference to work with. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3.
The 0.1.9 ebuilds never were really 0.1.9. They were always based on Chris Kennedy's patchset. You can get the ebuild from viewcvs and put it in you overlay. http://www.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/media-tv/ivtv/Attic/ivtv-0.1.9-r4.ebuild
Argh. Yes, that's true. But, the last version that was in Portage for so long was rock solid stable for me, and, at least from the feedback in the Multimedia Gentoo Forums, the 2.0-series of ebuilds has been very difficult to get working right. Is there a problem with keeping the last 0.1.9-r4 version around so we don't have to make an end-run around Portage?
If the 0.2.0_rc series doesn't work, file bugs about that. I don't want to maintain the older ebuild anymore. I have very limited time lately, and I'd prefer not to waste any of the free time I do have.
Brian, I can understand being stressed, and I appreciate all the work you do with such a difficult package, but what did you have to do to maintain a non-changing ebuild in Portage? Th 0.1.9-r4 ebuild hadn't changed since September. What you ask (use the 2.0-* series) can easily be done with the ebuild in Portage as without, no? Do you want new ivtv/MythTV Gentoo users to only have a broken system to start with, or choose to go with what works and is stable, and then experiment with more current builds? Why not at least leave the bug open to someone else who might want to pick up the ball on this request?
Thanks for putting in what time you have, Brian. It is appreciated. I also empathize for you since ivtv doesn't provide us with a simple release methodology. If I felt bugging the ivtv devs would make a difference, I'd nag them to put forth a clean, official release every now and then. I think it'd help those of us who are trying to settle on what works and what doesn't and continue to move the development along. That said, I was disappointed to see 0.1.9-r4 go away. As Jesse said, it was a solid, reliable version. We can't all be beta testers. When I sought to update some boxes over the last week, this tripped me up and left me with broken production-level boxes that do nothing but MPEG encoding. Just food for thought.
Once again, 0.1.9-r4 _WAS_ an experimental version. And no, I don't think it's nice for people to have broken systems. Every bit of the 0.2.0_rc drivers works for me. Even the tvout works (much better than anything before ever worked). If you would file bugs telling me what's wrong with 0.2.0, I'll do everything I can to fix them, but so far all I've heard is vague assumptions that I intentionally break peoples systems and 2 people that seem to have problems, but won't file bugs about the actual problems. The only stable release that has been made on the official project website is 0.1.9. It doesn't work with 2.6 (and more than likely doesn't even work right with newer 2.4 series kernels). I've made a judgement call. I'm using only versions that I've personally tested. I don't have anything else to say.
Brian - sorry if I've offended you. This is a case where I wish we still had "Gentoo Stats" to tell us what the Gentoo user base (or, at least those who voluntarily allow polling of their installed packages) has installed, and their patterns of upgrading. Again, I understand that ivtv (and the many other packages you maintain) takes up a not insignificant part of your day. I was just reacting based on the evidence seen in the Forums of unresolved problems people had (and few success reports) with 0.2.0*, and my own "conservative" approach. Obviously, you are the person who has taken the reigns for this unruly software, and I'm thankful for your work. In answering some of your statements, I hope to make my case clear. I _do_ file bugs. But I don't go looking for a new bugs intentionally (unless it's a program I'm working on) if there is no chance of me easily going back to "Last Known Good". I'm running 2.6.9-r6, and 0.1.9-r4 works great for me. I haven't moved from 0.1.9-r4 - "if it ain't broke..." That's why I started the thread[1] in "Multimedia" - to get a sense of people's experiences with 0.2.0*. I run an x86-STABLE box, with specific exceptions for specific packages, so I feel I get a less "eventful" Gentoo experience than others. I _do_ want to try the 2.0 series, and I will, and I'll (hopefully) make useful bug reports, if I can go back to what works for me if all hell breaks loose. However, all that said, I'm still grateful for all the work you and the other Gentoo devs do, no matter what the outcome of this request is. And I don't think you intentionally try to break systems. I apologize for implying that, and meant no offense. [1] (I'm "NightMonkey") http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=238392&start=25&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
OK. I did it. Upgraded to 2.0-rc3 from Portage. I've made a post to the ivtv-devel list seeking help, as it now hangs my system, which had been working well since I built it back in August. Can we please have 0.1.9-r4 restored to portage? Thanks in advance!
*** Bug 73879 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Here's my comments from a bug that was just marked a duplicate of this one: Desc: OK, I really must bring this to the devs attention. ivtv has just been hard masked. I just went through hell upgrading to ivtv-0.2.0-rc3, only to find it breaks my xorg.conf that has both a DISPLAY for the nvidia GF4 onboard video card and the ivtv-fb on my PVR-350. ivtv-0.1.9-r4 *was* working, but I decided to just bite the bullet, since it had been just removed outright from Portage. So, now we end up with a broken ivtv, and *no way* of going back to a _known good_ ebuild. Sorry for the yelling, but this is really silly. Please, please, bring back ivtv-0.1.9-r4 just as it was. Thank you! Later comments: As a result of Brian Jackson's efforts, we have now removed any stable version of this driver from Portage. For what reason? He said it doesn't work with 2.6 kernels. However, that's what many people have been using, including myself - where did he get that information? I apologized before for asking this, but now it appears to be a valid question: in deciding on this recent course of action, are broken systems the goal? Again, I repeat, we HAD A WORKING EBUILD IN PORTAGE. Please restore it! And I'll add now: Should we now inform the mythtv users and HOWTO makeers to leave Gentoo off the list of distributions to use for those with ivtv-enabled hardware? Please reopen this bug. Thanks. Also, here's the relavant forum article, which has over 1300 views on it as of theis posting: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=238392
I told you how to get the old version back. The end.
OK will do. Thank you.
Created attachment 45711 [details] ivtv-0.1.10_pre2.ebuild Brian, I'm attaching a version thats recommended by various folk (.1.10-pre2-ck115i). I can't get 2.0 to compile on 2.4 kernel and can't switch to 2.6 because linux-wlan-ng is not supported. I'd be happy to maintain this (it doesn't change very often and I've gotten feedback from at least two people that this version is solid as a rock.
nix that... if people want it, they can stick it in their overlays... sorry for the noise.
