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Bug 726060 - app-emulation/vmware-workstation: New package
Summary: app-emulation/vmware-workstation: New package
Status: RESOLVED OBSOLETE
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Linux
Classification: Unclassified
Component: New packages (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: Normal normal
Assignee: Default Assignee for New Packages
URL: https://www.vmware.com/products/works...
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Reported: 2020-05-29 09:48 UTC by Manfred Knick
Modified: 2020-05-29 18:54 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Description Manfred Knick 2020-05-29 09:48:45 UTC
Very unfortunately, [vmware-overlay] had to be been closed down:
. . . Bug 627666 - vmware: no reply to project status mail

For more than two years now, since 2018-01-18 (bug_644946#c3),
[stefantalpalaru] overlay has proven to supply *the* reliable support for working VMware Workstation Pro and Player installations.

Please, finally, find a way to re-integrate this important package into MPT.

Thanks.

Reproducible: Always




[ https://bugs.gentoo.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL%20vmware&list_id=4631476 ]
Comment 1 Andreas Sturmlechner gentoo-dev 2020-05-29 09:52:10 UTC
Do you volunteer to do it?
Comment 2 Manfred Knick 2020-05-29 10:17:12 UTC
(In reply to Andreas Sturmlechner from comment #1)
> Do you volunteer to do it?

I'm not a Gentoo Developer.

Nevertheless, if you look at the cited Bug History, you can detect 
that I have been actively supporting since 2017 at least, 
and prepared to continue.

And I am perfectly sure the same applies from Stefan.

The ebuilds have proven stable
and being maintained on much quicker notice than many others in MPT.
Comment 3 Andreas Sturmlechner gentoo-dev 2020-05-29 11:02:07 UTC
(In reply to Manfred Knick from comment #2)
> And I am perfectly sure the same applies from Stefan.
> 
> The ebuilds have proven stable
> and being maintained on much quicker notice than many others in MPT.

And until he decides to contribute to gentoo.git, it will probably stay that way.
Comment 4 Andreas Sturmlechner gentoo-dev 2020-05-29 13:09:18 UTC
Please don't mass-CC random people.
Comment 5 Ștefan Talpalaru 2020-05-29 13:17:46 UTC
> until he decides to contribute to gentoo.git

I have tried multiple times, but my technical skills are no match for your political games:

https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/pull/9357

https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/pull/9358

https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/pull/9359

https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/pull/9360

https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/pull/9601

https://github.com/gentoo/gentoo/pull/9972
Comment 6 Andreas Sturmlechner gentoo-dev 2020-05-29 13:27:47 UTC
You have proven to be impossible to work with back then, but that doesn't mean it can't change in the future.
Comment 7 Manfred Knick 2020-05-29 15:07:07 UTC
(In reply to Andreas Sturmlechner from comment #4)
> Please don't mass-CC random people.
...............^^^^....^^^^^^

Andreas, please STOP imputations:

All of these were carefully hand-selected,
- either because they were involved during [vmware] decline
- or because they were on CC of current [stefantalpalaru] 
  by their own request,

- even asked explicitly in Bug 700404, comment_#6:
- > Are you still interested to be placed "CC" in future bugs?
- > If so, please be so kind to confirm.
- > I do not want to impose unwanted noise.            <-----!

- and confirmed in comment_#7:
- > Yes. Otherwise I would have removed myself from CC :-)

Once again, from my OP:

          > Please, finally, find a way ...

Nobody benefits from the current ignoble situation:

   "... it's a pity that such a well-maintained asset is only available 
        via 'private' overlay.
        This makes it extremely difficult to being used @ customer sites
        (distrust)."

(from my PM to Andreas, 12:27 MEZ)
Comment 8 Manfred Knick 2020-05-29 15:15:20 UTC
(In reply to Andreas Sturmlechner from comment #1)
> . . . to do it?
..............^^.

Andreas, with all due respect:
Please, help me to understand what exactly you propose / expect with "it" ?
- Set up another identical copy of the same code?

Thanks!
Comment 9 Andreas Sturmlechner gentoo-dev 2020-05-29 16:14:54 UTC
It is relatively simple: No such package currently in the main repository, so a new package request it is. You are not going to volunteer yourself to get it packaged, answer to bugs, work with proxy-maint to fix bugs, so you want someone else to do that instead - fine. You may point at an overlay already known to have this packaged, and it may make sense to CC that overlay maintainer in case they are interested to contribute to the main repository.

If anyone of said other persons you put in CC had any interest in getting the package into the Gentoo main repository, they could have done so at any time since the 'decline' of vmware, irrespective of their 'involvement' in it back then.

Wrt Stefan, I reckon you leave it up to them to try again with any future contributions to Gentoo main ebuild repository, at their own pace. Even if bridges were burnt with certain teams or devs in the past, convincing only one single developer to work with them is perfectly enough to get it done.
Comment 10 Manfred Knick 2020-05-29 18:23:37 UTC
(In reply to Andreas Sturmlechner from comment #9)

> ... You are not going to volunteer yourself ... so you want someone else ...
This is your next row of imputations -
in contrast to my (maybe small) contributions during the last years.

This does not answer my very concrete question from comment #8.

To me, a friendly invitation to guide 'stepping in' 
(e.g. how to proxy-maint or whatever) would sound and feel different.

I am not offering myself as a punching ball.

All the best.
Comment 11 Andreas Sturmlechner gentoo-dev 2020-05-29 18:54:24 UTC
(In reply to Manfred Knick from comment #10)
> (In reply to Andreas Sturmlechner from comment #9)
> 
> > ... You are not going to volunteer yourself ... so you want someone else ...
> This is your next row of imputations -

Language barrier much?