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Bug 655734 - Access/status of gentoo-managers@l.g.o
Summary: Access/status of gentoo-managers@l.g.o
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Infrastructure
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Mailing Lists (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: Normal normal
Assignee: Gentoo Council
URL:
Whiteboard: [y/n/a] Council: 5/0/1 Trustees: 3/0/0
Keywords:
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2018-05-14 16:01 UTC by Michał Górny
Modified: 2018-06-10 18:35 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Description Michał Górny archtester Gentoo Infrastructure gentoo-dev Security 2018-05-14 16:01:40 UTC
We also seem to have quite long archives of mails on gentoo-managers@l.g.o mailing list.  I'm not sure if that list was supposed to be private or public (or possibly dev-only, like -core).

Apparently 'managers' were replaced by the Council, so the thing may fall under Council umbrella these days but I'm not sure.

1) Can we publish the archived mails on archives.g.o?

2) Can developers have access to those archives somehow?

3) Do I have specific permission to search them for issues related to copyright assignment?
Comment 1 Michał Górny archtester Gentoo Infrastructure gentoo-dev Security 2018-05-15 06:27:15 UTC
(CC-ing infra in case they know more)
Comment 2 Michał Górny archtester Gentoo Infrastructure gentoo-dev Security 2018-05-15 19:12:20 UTC
Ok, Robbins has looked into this and the archives contain some sensitive material and a low of insensitive things we don't really want to have published.  At the same time, it contains the data we'd really use for the copyright project.

My proposal would be to give access to the archives to the people working on copyright project for search purposes.  This would include those of (Council, Trustees, robbat2, rich0) who explicitly ask for this.  At the same time, they will be asked not to use, disclose or publish anything they found there without explicit permission from the poster.  That said, we'll probably prepare a list of all mails we'd like to use and send a single combined request for permission.

Since it is unclear who exactly inherited those archives, I would like *both* Council and Trustees to vote on this.  If both groups approve, we'll proceed.  Please vote in comments.  If anyone feels like this bug should be restricted before casting his vote, please let me know.
Comment 3 Andreas K. Hüttel archtester gentoo-dev 2018-05-15 19:14:32 UTC
Giving copyright team access: yes

Inherited: as of GLEP 39 clearly by the council
Comment 4 Michał Górny archtester Gentoo Infrastructure gentoo-dev Security 2018-05-15 19:15:19 UTC
I'm sorry, s/Robbins/Robin/
Comment 5 Kristian Fiskerstrand (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2018-05-15 19:18:33 UTC
No use to have archives if we can't use them in one way or the other when we actually need it for digging through history. Making it available to a restricted set of people instead of a fully public archive of data that was previously expected to be private makes sense to me.
Comment 6 Ulrich Müller gentoo-dev 2018-05-15 19:22:10 UTC
I abstain from voting. (I don't think that I have a conflict of interest, but let's have a separate council majority, in case that objection would be raised.)
Comment 7 David Abbott (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2018-05-15 22:25:25 UTC
I support the proposal in comment #2
"Give access to the archives to the people working on the copyright project for search purposes.  This would include those of (Council, Trustees, robbat2, rich0) who explicitly ask for this.  At the same time, they will be asked not to use, disclose or publish anything they find there without explicit permission from the poster."
Comment 8 Matthias Maier gentoo-dev 2018-05-16 11:27:44 UTC
yes to comment #2
Comment 9 Matthew Thode ( prometheanfire ) archtester Gentoo Infrastructure gentoo-dev Security 2018-05-16 18:22:34 UTC
Yes to comment 2
Comment 10 Sergei Trofimovich (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2018-05-16 18:46:01 UTC
vote: yes as stated in #comment2
Comment 11 Arisu Tachibana Gentoo Infrastructure gentoo-dev 2018-05-16 21:56:24 UTC
I support the proposal in comment #2
Comment 12 Michał Górny archtester Gentoo Infrastructure gentoo-dev Security 2018-05-17 13:48:08 UTC
I vote 'yes'.

In this case, we already have majority in both groups, so I'm going to call the motion passed.
Comment 13 Sergei Trofimovich (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2018-06-10 18:35:10 UTC
Closing as resolved.