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Bug 64970 - Number of Issues with quickinstall doc
Summary: Number of Issues with quickinstall doc
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: [OLD] Docs-user
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Gentoo Linux x86 Installation Guide (show other bugs)
Hardware: x86 Linux
: High major (vote)
Assignee: Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED)
URL: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x...
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Reported: 2004-09-22 07:24 UTC by ivo welch
Modified: 2004-09-23 08:14 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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Description ivo welch 2004-09-22 07:24:17 UTC
I just installed gentoo on another machine, so I could follow the install steps from start to end.  here is what I would change in the quick-ref:

* tar -xvjpf /mnt/cdrom/stages/stage?-*.tar.bz2   is misleading.  there are two images here on the 2004.2 ISO package, so this command will say it did not find it.  we should say "ls ... ;" then pick one.

  --- I would also write 'stage 3 includes everything in stage 2, which
      includes everything in stage 1'.  in a sense, we should rename these
      to stage1, stage12, and stage123. stages imply more of a sequence.

* the optional copy over distfiles command fails at this stage, because /mnt/gentoo/usr/portage/distfiles/ has not yet been created.

* the mirrorselect command must be totally wrong, and is almost a showstopper.  I believe that, as given, it writes the sample downloaded blocks into the make.conf file, which of course is a real problem thereafter.

* optional:  in code listing 1.3, I would write 'edit make.conf.example' and then save to make.conf .

* in code list 1.6., you need to give an example of how for 'emerge <kernel-package-here>'  given that this is the x86 package, you might say
  $ emerge search genkernel
and then pick one.  This may be the wrong command---I have not yet figured out where the linux kernel is stored.

I hope this helps.

regards,

/iaw
Comment 1 SpanKY gentoo-dev 2004-09-22 10:51:09 UTC
adding the comment describing the diff stages is nice, but they'll never get renamed

mirrorselect is not wrong, some versions have a bug which corrupts make.conf

the make.conf.example copying might have a snag where users dont import the correct $CHOST from make.conf, but oh well ;)

i dont understand the kernel thing
Comment 2 ivo welch 2004-09-22 12:28:27 UTC
hi spanky:

yeah, then let's just drop in a comment that stage 3 includes stages 1 and 2.

the mirrorselect I use is what is on the 2004.2 livecd.  that's the one that is broken???  arrrggghhh!

agreed on make.conf

on the kernel: in code listing 1.6, replace

(Install the kernel sources, pick from gentoo-dev-sources, or ...)  # emerge <kernel-package-here>

that is, add the words "pick from ..."

regards,

/ivo
Comment 3 Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-09-23 05:01:39 UTC
I've fixed the distfiles issue, but for the rest I have to remind you that this is a Quick Installation Reference, "Users should already have prior experience with
installing Gentoo Linux if they want to follow this guide."

- The stage-stuff was already fixed previously.
- If you have prior experience in installing Gentoo, then there is no need to explain how to search for a kernel source.

This document should never grow unless absolutely necessary.
Comment 4 ivo welch 2004-09-23 06:22:51 UTC
hi sven:  none of the changes I suggested would grow the document much.  (they are fragments.)  I think you really should say something about mirrorselect being broken in 2004.2 --- at least until 2004.3 comes out.

then again, I am happy that I am not in charge here, but you are.  I am just trying to help, and being now a moderately experienced/novice user, I hope to give you guys a little perspective.

regards,

/iaw
Comment 5 Xavier Neys (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-09-23 06:26:55 UTC
Ivo, I have updated the mirrorselect cmd to match the one in the hanbook, i.e. grep on GENTOO_MIRRORS instead of grepping -v the text about Netselect that was sent to stdout instead of stderr.

Wouldn't that solve the issue with the version of mirrorselect that is on the LiveCD?
Comment 6 Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-09-23 08:05:52 UTC
Probably, yes.

Ivo: it's those small thingies that make a document grow =)
Comment 7 ivo welch 2004-09-23 08:14:09 UTC
unfortunately, it won't, because there is no newline inserted before the GENTOO_MIRRORS command.  so, you will pick up binary junk followed on the same line by the GENTOO_MIRRORS.  (it will still be better than several MBytes of trash, though.)

regards,

/iaw