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Bug 52690 - Konqueror needs motif use flag to have plugins
Summary: Konqueror needs motif use flag to have plugins
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: [OLD] Docs-user
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Desktop Configuration Guide (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: High enhancement (vote)
Assignee: Xavier Neys (RETIRED)
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Reported: 2004-06-01 08:14 UTC by Cedric Godin
Modified: 2004-07-09 05:46 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Description Cedric Godin 2004-06-01 08:14:19 UTC
I did'nt find anywhere in the docs that i need to have USE="motif" with kdebase to have the plugins activated in konqueror.

Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
1.emerge kdebase
2.
3.

Actual Results:  
no plugins submenu in konqueror configure menu 

Expected Results:  
the submenu plugins in Settings/Configure
Comment 1 Xavier Neys (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-06-05 03:42:36 UTC
What's the link between motif and konqueror plugins?
Can we make sure this is a doc-only bug?
Thanks.
Comment 2 Sergey Kuleshov (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-06-05 03:54:29 UTC
The link is that is order to have plugins support Konqueror needs motif. Have a look here: http://developer.kde.org/build/compile_kde3_2.html 

It says: "For Netscape-plugins support in konqueror, make sure to install lesstif."
Comment 3 Xavier Neys (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-07-02 08:16:28 UTC
motif USE flag is on by default and we should not make a habit of writing warnings about everything that might break whenever a user changes a default flag.

That said and given 
1) anything that breaks KDE/konqueror will impact many users
2) users are not supposed to know about http://developer.kde.org and read all build instructions and there is no way they could guess Konqueror plugins depend on motif

I suggest adding "motif" to http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/desktop.xml where it says "Make sure that "qt" and "kde" are in your USE variables in make.conf." and a note to http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kde-config.xml

Unless the KDE team tell us they are going to force motif in and not use the USE flag anymore.

Assigning back to docs-team with CC to kde as it looks like it's going to end up in a doc change.

Please comment.
Comment 4 Xavier Neys (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-07-07 10:56:22 UTC
--timeout--

I'll briefly mention the need for motif as suggested.
Comment 5 Caleb Tennis (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-07-07 10:58:12 UTC
If someone wants to put it in the docs, that's fine by me, but I see no reason to force it upon a user.  It's pretty easy to lookup both here and in the forums, and a message does appear on the screen during ./configure saying that you don't have motif installed and the konqueror plugins won't be built.
Comment 6 Cedric Godin 2004-07-08 03:01:59 UTC
I didn't want to force anyone. I only suggested to add a "if you want plugins" tip. Sorry if I didn't express it correctly.
PS: When I did emerge kde I didn't see the message and could not find it (don't have the noclean in FEATURES, my fault). In fact I followed the docs and had a nice nap ;-)
Comment 7 Xavier Neys (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-07-09 01:32:24 UTC
Thank you all for your comments.

Added
"""
The "motif" USE flag is on by default; if you explicitely disabled it,
konqueror plugins will not be available.
"""
19 words should not be overwhelming.

Note: ./configure flies too fast and I doubt any user would notice any warning it might display, especially when you launch a KDE compile and take a day off. Generally speaking, IMVHO, expecting users to hit f.g.o or b.g.o to solve problems that can easily be prevented is not the right thing to do.
Comment 8 Caleb Tennis (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-07-09 05:46:46 UTC
I agree, it was just my argument against turning motif on by default.