Gentoo Websites Logo
Go to: Gentoo Home Documentation Forums Lists Bugs Planet Store Wiki Get Gentoo!
Bug 496962 - emerge-webrsync doesn't respect trust settings
Summary: emerge-webrsync doesn't respect trust settings
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: Portage Development
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Core (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: Normal normal
Assignee: Portage team
URL:
Whiteboard:
Keywords:
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2014-01-04 12:47 UTC by Thomas Bettler
Modified: 2014-01-12 01:30 UTC (History)
0 users

See Also:
Package list:
Runtime testing required: ---


Attachments

Note You need to log in before you can comment on or make changes to this bug.
Description Thomas Bettler 2014-01-04 12:47:19 UTC
Actual behaviour:
emerge-webrsync only gives a warning if the downloaded snapshot is signed by any key not trusted.

Expected behaviour:
emerge-webrsync should abort if a snapshot is signed by any key not trusted to a certain degree.
Additionally the behaviour (requested trust level) should be documented in the relevant handbook section: 
https://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?full=1#webrsync-gpg

$ emerge-webrsync
Fetching most recent snapshot ...
Trying to retrieve 20140103 snapshot from http://distfiles.gentoo.org ...
Fetching file portage-20140103.tar.xz.md5sum ...
Fetching file portage-20140103.tar.xz.gpgsig ...
Fetching file portage-20140103.tar.xz ...
Checking digest ...
Checking signature ...
gpg: Signature made Sat 04 Jan 2014 01:55:06 AM CET using RSA key ID C9189250
gpg: Good signature from "Gentoo Portage Snapshot Signing Key (Automated Signing Key)"
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg:          There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
Primary key fingerprint: DCD0 5B71 EAB9 4199 527F  44AC DB6B 8C1F 96D8 BF6D
     Subkey fingerprint: E1D6 ABB6 3BFC FB4B A02F  DF1C EC59 0EEA C918 9250
Getting snapshot timestamp ...
Syncing local tree ...
Comment 1 Sebastian Luther (few) 2014-01-05 23:16:21 UTC
The problem is:

$ gpg --homedir /etc/portage/gpg --verify portage-20140104.tar.xz.gpgsig  portage-20140104.tar.xz
gpg: Signature made Sun Jan  5 01:55:08 2014 CET using RSA key ID C9189250
gpg: Good signature from "Gentoo Portage Snapshot Signing Key (Automated Signing Key)"
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg:          There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
Primary key fingerprint: DCD0 5B71 EAB9 4199 527F  44AC DB6B 8C1F 96D8 BF6D
     Subkey fingerprint: E1D6 ABB6 3BFC FB4B A02F  DF1C EC59 0EEA C918 9250

$ echo $?
0

Do you know a way to make that fail? Or do you have another suggestion how to detect this case?
Comment 2 Thomas Bettler 2014-01-11 23:55:26 UTC
How are other distros doing this trick?
Debian: https://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt#How_to_tell_apt_what_to_trust
Debian Mirror w/ signatures: http://www.tobanet.de/dokuwiki/debian:debmirror

gpgv (1) seems to provide a good solution here:
Manpage: http://www.tin.org/bin/man.cgi?section=1&topic=gpgv
Manual: http://www.gnupg.org/documentation/manuals/gnupg-devel/gpgv.html

Conclusion:
a) gpgv would provide another way to verify signatures - accessing it's own trustedkeys.db
while gpg verifys the signatures - however w/o checking key trust. The gpgv implementation would be somewhat similar on a technical level - just to omit a warning it won't be worth doing that.

b) The handbook seem irritating in proposing edit-key trust. The only effect of trusting the key is omitting the warning (decorative effect). Until keys trusting other keys (web of trust) doesn't matter we may stick with status quo. Efforts would be better spent in continuing work on implementing GLEP's eclass Manifest and any kind of MetaManifest and MetaManifest.sig

Just in case: to parse gpg output use --status-fd option to get wonderful parseable output.
Comment 3 Brian Dolbec (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2014-01-12 01:30:20 UTC
This is already being worked on:

for a python lib wrapping gpg that is able to mine all data from --status-fd and --colon-listing:

https://github.com/dol-sen/pyGPG

and for gentoo key management there is a project underway.  The keys will be changing as well as the methods  media will be signed.

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Gentoo-keys

Once the new standards have been set by the council, we will begin to make sure infra is set up to be using the new system.  There will also be a user installed pkg which will maintain the keys, do the validation, etc..