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Bug 493424 - mail-client/thunderbird: uses Microsoft Bing as default search engine
Summary: mail-client/thunderbird: uses Microsoft Bing as default search engine
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Linux
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Current packages (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: Normal minor
Assignee: Mozilla Gentoo Team
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Reported: 2013-12-06 09:02 UTC by Sergey S. Starikoff
Modified: 2013-12-09 16:10 UTC (History)
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Thunderbird-24.1.1 context menu with search reference (thunderbird-24.1.1_bing-search.png,2.00 KB, image/png)
2013-12-06 09:02 UTC, Sergey S. Starikoff
Details
thunderbird-24.1.1-revert_default_search_engine.patch (thunderbird-24.1.1-revert_default_search_engine.patch,877 bytes, patch)
2013-12-06 10:10 UTC, Lars Wendler (Polynomial-C) (RETIRED)
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Description Sergey S. Starikoff 2013-12-06 09:02:57 UTC
Created attachment 364696 [details]
Thunderbird-24.1.1 context menu with search reference

Now it is =mail-client/thunderbird-24.1.1, but I remember this «feature» since about 3.x.
Suggesting by default Microsoft's search engine in GNU/Linux (see attached image as example) looks… at least very strange.
I want NOT to see ANY unwilling referencies to Microsoft on my GNU/Linux workstation!
But:
My settings:
$ grep -R Bing /usr/lib64/thunderbird/
…
/usr/lib64/thunderbird/extensions/langpack-ru@thunderbird.mozilla.org/chrome/ru/locale/ru/messenger-region/region.properties:browser.search.defaultenginename = Bing
/usr/lib64/thunderbird/extensions/langpack-ru@thunderbird.mozilla.org/chrome/ru/locale/ru/messenger-region/region.properties:browser.search.order.1 = Bing

Installed by default search engine list:
$ ls -1 /usr/lib64/thunderbird/searchplugins/
amazondotcom.xml
aol-web-search.xml
bing.xml
eBay.xml
twitter.xml
wikipedia.xml
yahoo.xml

To my mind only Yahoo and wikipedia *MAY* be reasonable ones.
But NOT Bing (Microsoft Bing).
Ideally search engine list should be completely reviewed and locale (LINGUAS) selective (for example for LINGUAS="ru" it should contain popular national search systems (mail.ru, rambler.ru amd yandex.ru).

Upstream bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=731590#c12
Google search plugin: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/google-search-for-thunderbi/
Comment 1 Sergey Popov (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2013-12-06 09:08:30 UTC
Confirming this issue
Comment 2 Lars Wendler (Polynomial-C) (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2013-12-06 10:10:05 UTC
Created attachment 364698 [details, diff]
thunderbird-24.1.1-revert_default_search_engine.patch

I'm all in favor of reverting this change unless mozilla comes with a reasonable explanation (which it does not in the referenced bug) why they changed this to bing (*shudder*).
Please find attached a patch that reverts the change back to google being the default. If it won't make it into portage you can at least use it via epatch_user...
Comment 3 Jory A. Pratt gentoo-dev 2013-12-07 14:36:08 UTC
(In reply to Lars Wendler (Polynomial-C) from comment #2)
> Created attachment 364698 [details, diff] [details, diff]
> thunderbird-24.1.1-revert_default_search_engine.patch
> 
> I'm all in favor of reverting this change unless mozilla comes with a
> reasonable explanation (which it does not in the referenced bug) why they
> changed this to bing (*shudder*).
> Please find attached a patch that reverts the change back to google being
> the default. If it won't make it into portage you can at least use it via
> epatch_user...

There are legal issues which is why it was drop'd we will not add to portage.
Comment 4 Jory A. Pratt gentoo-dev 2013-12-07 18:36:03 UTC
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/google-search-for-thunderbi/ For a much better approach.
Comment 5 Sergey S. Starikoff 2013-12-09 09:10:59 UTC
(In reply to Jory A. Pratt from comment #4)
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/google-search-for-
> thunderbi/ For a much better approach.

Maybe I wasn't clear enough…
This bug is _not_ about why google search engine was removed and how to return it.

This bug is about interface's default (without clear change algorytm) reference to Microsoft's service.
To my mind most (up to almost all) GNU/Linux users don't want to see any unwilling referencies to Microsoft's services.
So, bug asks not about _returning_ Google search, but about _removing_ Microsoft's.

I've never used this search (menu item).
And everybody I've asked about it find it unnecessary.
Do you know which value should remove this interface item?
And could it (not to show search in this menu at all) could be set as portage's default?
Comment 6 Jory A. Pratt gentoo-dev 2013-12-09 16:10:30 UTC
(In reply to Sergey S. Starikoff from comment #5)
> (In reply to Jory A. Pratt from comment #4)
> > https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/google-search-for-
> > thunderbi/ For a much better approach.
> 
> Maybe I wasn't clear enough…
> This bug is _not_ about why google search engine was removed and how to
> return it.
> 
> This bug is about interface's default (without clear change algorytm)
> reference to Microsoft's service.
> To my mind most (up to almost all) GNU/Linux users don't want to see any
> unwilling referencies to Microsoft's services.
> So, bug asks not about _returning_ Google search, but about _removing_
> Microsoft's.
> 
> I've never used this search (menu item).
> And everybody I've asked about it find it unnecessary.
> Do you know which value should remove this interface item?
> And could it (not to show search in this menu at all) could be set as
> portage's default?

Let me be clear, we are not gonna make any change to portage. If you do not like the default change it, if that does not float your boat complain to upstream. We only will make a change that is beneficial to the entire comunity not just for a few users who are not happy with the defaults.