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Bug 479080 - gnome-extra/nemo-1.8.3 tries to manage the desktop in non-cinnamon desktop environments
Summary: gnome-extra/nemo-1.8.3 tries to manage the desktop in non-cinnamon desktop en...
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Linux
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Current packages (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: Normal normal
Assignee: Gentoo Linux Gnome Desktop Team
URL: https://github.com/linuxmint/nemo/iss...
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Keywords: NeedPatch
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2013-07-31 05:29 UTC by Paramonov Valeriy
Modified: 2014-05-27 18:15 UTC (History)
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Description Paramonov Valeriy 2013-07-31 05:29:46 UTC
Hi.
I have the XFCE desktop environment with nemo file manager except less advanced thunar. This bundle is worth a hundred of my clients and they have become accustomed to Nautilus/Nemo. Thunar is not terribly useful, gnome bulky. And this bunch always worked perfectly! But after upgrade it from version 1.1.2 to 1.8.3 there came a big problem with strange desktop that runs on top of XFCE desktop. I don't know why developers have tied file manager with the desktop, it's two different things. Nautilus was a great file manager that supports integration with the archiver and easy to navigate. They killed him. Luckily there was Nemo who in our distribution does not support archives (fileroller extension). Now even worsened, tied it with a desktop. It feels like our world penetrated pests from microsoft or other unfriendly and deliberately spoil everything.

Cry from the heart. Guys, please help save Nemo from enemies. Can anyone come up with a patch to Nemo began working with archives and no longer run this horrible desktop? 

Please help...

Reproducible: Always
Comment 1 Alexandre Rostovtsev (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2013-07-31 13:33:07 UTC
Confirmed, we need to fix nemo so it manages the desktop only in cinnamon sessions. (It's even worse for gnome3 purists - in gnome3, cinnamon tries to autostart at login and manage the desktop!)

For now, you can run (from your user account and while logged into xfce)

$ gsettings set org.nemo.desktop show-desktop-icons false
Comment 2 Alexandre Rostovtsev (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2013-07-31 13:34:39 UTC
(In reply to Alexandre Rostovtsev from comment #1)
> in gnome3, cinnamon tries to autostart at login and manage the desktop!

Should be: in gnome3, nemo tries to autostart at login and manage the desktop
Comment 3 Paramonov Valeriy 2013-07-31 16:47:31 UTC
Thanks for confirmation. Yes, even if you start nemo with the --no-desktop option, all the same. At next login (session restore) to XFCE, nemo runs their own desktop over.
Comment 4 Paramonov Valeriy 2013-07-31 16:57:58 UTC
(In reply to Alexandre Rostovtsev from comment #1)

How about fileroller extension support (with natspec support)? It is real?
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=467994
Comment 5 Paramonov Valeriy 2013-07-31 17:12:28 UTC
(In reply to Alexandre Rostovtsev from comment #1)
> For now, you can run (from your user account and while logged into xfce)
> 
> $ gsettings set org.nemo.desktop show-desktop-icons false

Looks like works fine. Thanks, this solved!
Comment 6 Pacho Ramos gentoo-dev 2013-09-01 13:54:27 UTC
Can you report this problem to upstream?
Comment 7 Pacho Ramos gentoo-dev 2013-12-24 12:52:45 UTC
(In reply to Pacho Ramos from comment #6)
> Can you report this problem to upstream?

Did you report it?
Comment 8 Paramonov Valeriy 2013-12-24 13:02:53 UTC
Me? I didn't. How can I do it?
Comment 9 Pacho Ramos gentoo-dev 2013-12-24 13:51:06 UTC
Would be to:
https://github.com/linuxmint/nemo/issues/new

The idea is that you report it because you have the setup showing the problem and will likely reply better and faster to upstream questions
Comment 10 Paramonov Valeriy 2013-12-24 16:18:32 UTC
(In reply to Pacho Ramos from comment #9)

I just did it.
Comment 11 Pacho Ramos gentoo-dev 2013-12-24 18:22:01 UTC
Thanks! (I have just subscribed to that one too)
Comment 12 Paramonov Valeriy 2013-12-25 11:20:25 UTC
I got the reply: https://github.com/linuxmint/nemo/issues/497#issuecomment-31195463
Comment 13 Pacho Ramos gentoo-dev 2013-12-25 11:22:46 UTC
Well, maybe we could change the session file to need nemo and drop the autostart since we already have nemo in RDEPEND :/
Comment 14 Paramonov Valeriy 2013-12-29 15:25:27 UTC
(In reply to Pacho Ramos from comment #13)
> Well, maybe we could change the session file to need nemo and drop the
> autostart since we already have nemo in RDEPEND :/

https://github.com/linuxmint/nemo/issues/497#issuecomment-31318114
Comment 15 Pacho Ramos gentoo-dev 2013-12-29 15:59:08 UTC
I am unsure how this commit:
https://github.com/linuxmint/nemo/commit/081449869f41277482d588a437f22c01184d11c5

solves things :/, I guess I am missing something :S
Comment 16 Pacho Ramos gentoo-dev 2014-05-27 18:15:28 UTC
nemo-2.2.1 doesn't suffer this