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Bug 46809 - Alsa (atiixp) works under 2.4.25 but fails under 2.6.5_rc3
Summary: Alsa (atiixp) works under 2.4.25 but fails under 2.6.5_rc3
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Linux
Classification: Unclassified
Component: [OLD] Unspecified (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: High major (vote)
Assignee: x86-kernel@gentoo.org (DEPRECATED)
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Reported: 2004-04-04 17:27 UTC by Mark Knecht
Modified: 2004-04-15 19:14 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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Description Mark Knecht 2004-04-04 17:27:26 UTC
I'm using an R3070US laptop by Compaq with a new chipset from ATI. I brought the machine up under gentoo-sources. (2.4.25) The machine runs fine, and Alsa works great, but the ATI chipset was not supported and I was not able to run DMA with this kernel so the hard drive is very slow and watching DVDs is jerky. 

A DMA patch was available in ~x86 development-sources so I'm trying it. DMA now works great for drives, but Alsa is not working with this sound chip at all. 

The drivers appear to load, but different than 2.4.25 there are no devices created under /dev/snd or /dev/sound. alsamixer won't run and there are bad messages in dmesg.

mark@flash mark $ cat /etc/modules.d/alsa 
# Alsa 0.9.X kernel modules' configuration file.
# $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/media-sound/alsa-utils/files/alsa-modules.conf-rc,v 1.1 2003/08/05 21:07:55 johnm Exp $

# ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd
# OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14 soundcore

alias snd-card-0 snd-atiixp

##
## IMPORTANT:
## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s)
## and then run `update-modules' command.
## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info.
##
##  ALSA portion
## alias snd-card-0 snd-interwave
## alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1371
##  OSS/Free portion
alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
## alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
##

# OSS/Free portion - card #1
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
##  OSS/Free portion - card #2
## alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
## alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
## alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss

alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss

# Set this to the correct number of cards.
options snd cards_limit=1
mark@flash mark $ 

flash root # lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
fglrx                 199556  7 
snd_atiixp             15012  0 
snd_ac97_codec         60292  1 snd_atiixp
snd_seq_oss            32256  0 
snd_seq_midi_event      6272  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                52368  4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device          6920  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss            49060  0 
snd_pcm                84772  2 snd_atiixp,snd_pcm_oss
snd_page_alloc          9092  2 snd_atiixp,snd_pcm
snd_timer              22148  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_mixer_oss          17920  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd                    47972  10 snd_atiixp,snd_ac97_codec,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss
flash root # 


Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Build 2.6.5_rc3
2. Configure Alsa and reboot
3. run alsamixer

Actual Results:  
mark@flash mark $ alsamixer

alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
mark@flash mark $ 


VFS: Mounted root (ext3 filesystem) readonly.
Mounted devfs on /dev
Freeing unused kernel memory: 132k freed
Adding 1004020k swap on /dev/hda6.  Priority:-1 extents:1
EXT3 FS on hda7, internal journal
atiixp: codec read timeout
atiixp: codec read timeout
atiixp: codec read timeout

<deleted 100 or so identical messages>

atiixp: codec read timeout
atiixp: codec read timeout
AC'97 2 does not respond - RESET
atiixp: codec read timeout
atiixp: codec read timeout
AC'97 2 access is not valid [0xffffffff], removing mixer.
ATI IXP AC97 controller: probe of 0000:00:14.5 failed with error -5
eth0: link up, 100Mbps, half-duplex, lpa 0x40A1


mark@flash mark $ ls /dev/snd
controlC0  seq  timer
mark@flash mark $ ls /dev/sound
sequencer  sequencer2
mark@flash mark $ 




Expected Results:  
Just expect Alsa to work. 

flash root # emerge info
Portage 2.0.50-r1 (default-x86-2004.0, gcc-3.3.2, glibc-2.3.2-r9, 2.6.5-rc3)
=================================================================
System uname: 2.6.5-rc3 i686 Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4     CPU 3.06GHz
Gentoo Base System version 1.4.3.13p1
Autoconf: sys-devel/autoconf-2.58-r1
Automake: sys-devel/automake-1.8.3
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86"
AUTOCLEAN="yes"
CFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
COMPILER="gcc3"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb /usr/kde/2/share/config
/usr/kde/3.2/share/config /usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/lib/mozilla/defaults/pref
/usr/share/config /var/qmail/control"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d"
CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium4 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
FEATURES="autoaddcvs ccache sandbox"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://mirror.tucdemonic.org/gentoo/
ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo http://mirror.gentoo.gr.jp
http://www.zentek-international.com/mirrors/gentoo/"
MAKEOPTS="-j2"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY=""
SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="X aalib alsa apm avi berkdb cdr crypt cups dvd dvdr encode foomaticdb gdbm
gif gpm gtk gtk2 imlib jack jack-tmpfs java jpeg libg++ libwww mad mikmod mmx
motif mozcalendar mozilla mpeg ncurses nls oggvorbis opengl oss pam pdflib perl
png python qt quicktime readline sdl slang spell sse ssl svga tcpd truetype
video_cards_radeon x86 xml2 xmms xv zlib"

flash root #
Comment 1 Jeremy Huddleston (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-04-04 23:38:05 UTC
what version of alsa are you using?  can you try 1.0.4?  Can you try the ones in the kernel?
Comment 2 Mark Knecht 2004-04-05 08:31:33 UTC
Thanks for your help. OK, as of this morning I've updated the kernel to the newest development-sources. (2.6.5 instead of 2.6.5-rc3) The problem persists. I'm using the atiixp from the kernel. All other alsa tools are ~x86 emerges:

flash root # cat /proc/asound/version 
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.4rc2 (Tue Mar 30 08:19:30 2004 UTC).
Compiled on Apr  5 2004 for kernel 2.6.5.
flash root # 

flash root # emerge -pv alsa-tools alsa-utils alsa-lib alsa-firmware alsa-oss alsa-jack 

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] media-sound/alsa-tools-1.0.4   0 kB 
[ebuild   R   ] media-sound/alsa-utils-1.0.4   0 kB 
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.4  +jack  0 kB 
[ebuild   R   ] media-sound/alsa-firmware-1.0.4   0 kB 
[ebuild   R   ] media-libs/alsa-oss-1.0.4   0 kB 
[ebuild   R   ] media-plugins/alsa-jack-1.0.4   0 kB 

Total size of downloads: 0 kB

flash root # 

VFS: Mounted root (ext3 filesystem) readonly.
Mounted devfs on /dev
Freeing unused kernel memory: 132k freed
Adding 1004020k swap on /dev/hda6.  Priority:-1 extents:1
EXT3 FS on hda7, internal journal
atiixp: codec read timeout
atiixp: codec read timeout
atiixp: codec read timeout

<SNIP>

atiixp: codec read timeout
atiixp: codec read timeout
atiixp: codec read timeout
AC'97 2 does not respond - RESET
atiixp: codec read timeout
atiixp: codec read timeout
AC'97 2 access is not valid [0xffffffff], removing mixer.
ATI IXP AC97 controller: probe of 0000:00:14.5 failed with error -5
eth0: link up, 10Mbps, half-duplex, lpa 0x0000


Attempting to run alsamixer doesn't work. There is no sound card, presumably becuase the atiixp codec timed out:

flash root # alsamixer

alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
flash root # 
 cat /proc/asound/devices 
  1:       : sequencer
 33:       : timer
flash root # cat /proc/asound/cards   
--- no soundcards ---
flash root # 
Comment 3 Jeremy Huddleston (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-04-05 09:18:41 UTC
it alsa support compiled into the kernel or as modules?

is alsasound in the boot runlevel?

can you try emergeing alsa-driver-1.0.4?
Comment 4 Mark Knecht 2004-04-05 09:56:21 UTC
I am running Alsa as part of the kernel I emerged, but compiled as modules. 

I am happy to try emerging the alsa-driver, but please clarify how to do that. (I'm a user type, not a developer.) My *guess* would be that I choose 'Sound' support in make menuconfig, but then deselect everything under Alsa and OSS? If that's correct, then I'd build and install that kernel. After that I would then emerge the 1.0.4 alsa-driver package normally?

Does this just place a copy of the code in the kernel tree, requiring me to rebuild the kernel again. or does it build and install the driver into /lib/modules and I just have to restart/reboot to be running it?


flash root # rc-update show
           alsasound | boot                   
            bootmisc | boot                   
             checkfs | boot                   
           checkroot | boot                   
               clock | boot                   
         consolefont | boot                   
         crypto-loop |                        
               cupsd |                        
          domainname |      default           
                famd |                        
            gkrellmd |                        
                 gpm |                        
              hdparm |                        
            hostname | boot                   
             hotplug |                        
             keymaps | boot                   
               local |      default nonetwork 
          localmount | boot                   
             modules | boot                   
            net.eth0 |      default           
              net.lo | boot                   
            netmount |      default           
                nscd |                        
             numlock |                        
             portmap |                        
           rmnologin | boot                   
              rsyncd |                        
              serial | boot                   
                sshd |      default           
           syslog-ng |      default           
             urandom | boot                   
          vixie-cron |      default           
                 xdm |                        
                 xfs |                        
flash root # 
Comment 5 Mark Knecht 2004-04-05 10:33:45 UTC
OK, same problem using the alsa-driver emerge.

1) A new kernel from a few minutes ago:

mark@flash mark $ uname -a
Linux flash 2.6.5 #2 Mon Apr 5 10:01:09 PDT 2004 i686 Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4     CPU 3.06GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
mark@flash mark $ 

2) The snd-atiixp driver was emerged and installed as a module. Alsa is started:

mark@flash mark $ lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
fglrx                 199556  7 
snd_atiixp             15268  0 
snd_ac97_codec         60932  1 snd_atiixp
snd_seq_oss            33920  0 
snd_seq_midi_event      6272  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                52880  4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device          7048  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss            48676  0 
snd_pcm                85156  2 snd_atiixp,snd_pcm_oss
snd_page_alloc          9092  2 snd_atiixp,snd_pcm
snd_timer              22276  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_mixer_oss          17792  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd                    49124  10 snd_atiixp,snd_ac97_codec,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss
soundcore               7648  1 snd
mark@flash mark $ 


3) I'm getting sort of weird messages in dmesg, but they amount to the same problem. Possibly the emerge alsa-driver didn't go quite right?

ALSA /var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.4/work/alsa-driver-1.0.4/alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_codec.c:1759: AC'97 2 does not respond - RESET
ALSA /var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.4/work/alsa-driver-1.0.4/alsa-kernel/pci/atiixp.c:455: atiixp: codec read timeout
ALSA /var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.4/work/alsa-driver-1.0.4/alsa-kernel/pci/atiixp.c:455: atiixp: codec read timeout
ALSA /var/tmp/portage/alsa-driver-1.0.4/work/alsa-driver-1.0.4/alsa-kernel/pci/ac97/ac97_codec.c:1767: AC'97 2 access is not valid [0xffffffff], removing mixer.
ATI IXP AC97 controller: probe of 0000:00:14.5 failed with error -5


Why is the driver in /var/tmp/portage? Do I have to move it to /lib/modules by hand? The driver time and date in /lib/modules looks pretty good to me.

mark@flash mark $ ls -al /lib/modules/2.6.5/kernel/sound/pci/
total 32
drwxr-xr-x    3 root     root         4096 Apr  5 10:21 .
drwxr-xr-x    4 root     root         4096 Apr  5 10:21 ..
drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root         4096 Apr  5 10:21 ac97
-rw-r--r--    1 root     root        18477 Apr  5 10:21 snd-atiixp.ko
mark@flash mark $ 


4) Running alsamixer still says there's no sound card:
mark@flash mark $ alsamixer

alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
mark@flash mark $ 

Comment 6 Jeremy Huddleston (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-04-05 10:56:05 UTC
youu actually don't need to rebuild the kernel after 'emerge alsa-driver'.  If you do, then the modules installed by alsa-driver will be removed by the 'make modules_install' in the kernel (atleast that's how it was under 2.4... pretty sure it's the same under 2.6)...  the only reason you'd need tyo rebuild the kernel would be if the drivers were compiled in instead of as modules...

amerging alsa-driver overwrites the modules in /lib/modules/... installed by the kernel, so after doing that, just '/etc/init.d/alsasound restart' to get the new modules (note this might result in kicker or your gnome panel getting killed and restarted if you're running gnome or kde).

This smells like an upstream bug.  Can you file a bug on alsa's bug tracker https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/

Please provide a link to it here so I can track it and include the fix.
Comment 7 Mark Knecht 2004-04-05 17:42:15 UTC
Cool. THanks for the quick focus on this. I'll file an Alsa bug later this evening and copy the pointers back here for you.

Cheers,
Mark
Comment 8 Jeremy Huddleston (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-04-12 00:17:49 UTC
Mark, did you file a bug upstream on this?
Comment 9 Mark Knecht 2004-04-12 09:08:46 UTC
Jeremy,
   Sorry. I'm a twit. It's entered as of this morning.

https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0000202

There is another bug which is similar, but he gets sound:

https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0000175

Thanks for reminding me!

Cheers,
Mark
Comment 10 Mark Knecht 2004-04-14 09:14:58 UTC
Jeremy,
   There's been a little bit of response out of one Alsa developer, but things are not progressing. He wanted me to try disabling ACPI. I tried, but it didn't change anything.

   He's now suggesting that I go ask on lkml. He says that since it works on 2.4 kernels it's not an Alsa problem. I don't have the skill set to understand why he thought ACPI might be involved, or what I'd even want to ask on lkml.

   Can you help?

https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0000202

Thanks,
Mark
Comment 11 Jeremy Huddleston (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-04-14 10:50:39 UTC
so, you're able to get sound in 2.4.25 but not 2.6?  It might very well be a kernel problem, so hopefully one of the kernel devs can help you out.  I don't have enough experience with 2.6 yet to be of much use here.
Comment 12 Mark Knecht 2004-04-15 07:47:11 UTC
Yes, under 2.4.25 sound seems fine. Under 2.6.5 the codec times out, Alsa thinks there is no sound card and I get no sound at all.

There is another Alsa user who is seeing similar problems now. He's posted info on the Alsa bug site. He thinks he actually had it working on 2.6.3, so I may try that. I need a newer kernel or I lose DMA on my hard drive.

By 'kernel dev' do you mean someone here at Gentoo? If so, can we reassign this bug to them? If you mean a 'Linux Kernel Developer' then how do I get them to look at this? Can you help me with contacting them? Also, if they want me to do a patch or something like that then I'll need some help with knowing how to do it.

Please get back to me and give me some ideas on how to proceed.

Thanks!
Comment 13 Mark Knecht 2004-04-15 15:34:03 UTC
Hey! Good news! It appears this is fixed with the new 2.6.6 development-sources kernel. I'll mark te bug as fixed if the system will allow me. If not someone else will need to do so.

Thanks!
Comment 14 Jeremy Huddleston (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-04-15 18:54:30 UTC
can you tell me if alsa-driver-1.0.4 works under 2.6.6?  Otherwise I hope the fix made it back into the alsa tree for t.0.5...
Comment 15 Mark Knecht 2004-04-15 19:14:12 UTC
I'm using the alsa-driver in the kernel tree. cat /proc/asound/version says 1.0.4rc2. For all other alsa stuff (utils, tools, firmware, oss, lib & jack) I'm using ~x86 as of today.

For completeness, uname -a identifies the kernel as 2.6.6-rc1 (SMP)