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Bug 45973 - It is hard to install gentoo on vmware using the current installation docs
Summary: It is hard to install gentoo on vmware using the current installation docs
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: [OLD] Docs-user
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Gentoo Alternative Installation Guide (show other bugs)
Hardware: All All
: High normal (vote)
Assignee: Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED)
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Reported: 2004-03-28 04:17 UTC by Demis Bellot
Modified: 2004-04-27 15:23 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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Linked document (gentoo.txt,3.79 KB, text/plain)
2004-03-28 05:18 UTC, Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED)
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Description Demis Bellot 2004-03-28 04:17:29 UTC
luckily enough I found a URL with a good guide to installing gentoo on a VM.
Please check out: http://home.mesastate.edu/~wmacevoy/classes/Spring-2004/csci333-1300-mwf/gentoo.txt

You should either update your installation docs to include Gentoo on vmware or include an alternative installation for vmware. I had numerous problems using the current installation docs - that includes a couple of Kernel Panic errors: 1 for USB Hardware detection and one for not being able to load my SCSI /dev/sda3 root partition.

Apart from this - Im loving gentoo keep up the good work





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Comment 1 Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-03-28 05:18:23 UTC
Created attachment 28212 [details]
Linked document

attaching just in case the link goes down
Comment 2 Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-03-28 05:20:17 UTC
I'm not sure this is something for the alternative installation guide, perhaps more suited for the tips 'n tricks document that needs to be set up?
Comment 3 Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-04-11 06:25:47 UTC
I don't see any differences in the installation instructions provided by the document and the Gentoo/x86 installation instructions. The differences I see are trivial (using SCSI disks - /dev/sda - instead of IDE disks) and shouldn't explicitely be mentioned.

Can you elaborate on what you needed to do to get Gentoo on VMWare working properly that you don't have to do on a regular Gentoo system?
Comment 4 Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-04-11 06:26:02 UTC
I don't see any differences in the installation instructions provided by the document and the Gentoo/x86 installation instructions. The differences I see are trivial (using SCSI disks - /dev/sda - instead of IDE disks) and shouldn't explicitely be mentioned.

Can you elaborate on what you needed to do to get Gentoo on VMWare working properly that you don't have to do on a regular Gentoo system?
Comment 5 Demis Bellot 2004-04-11 14:02:52 UTC
ok these are changes that would be helpful to know:

-- START SNIPPET --

12 Configure kernel

   //no! emerge-webrsync
   export PKGDIR=/mnt/cdrom/packages
   ...
   emerge --usepkg gentoo-sources  
#    emerge --usepkg vanilla-sources
   ...
   edit /etc/modules.d/aliases and *add*

     eth0 pcnet32

18 create /boot/grub/grub.conf file:

default 0
timeout 30
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title=Gentoo Linux 2.4.20
root (hd0,0)
kernel (hd0,0)/kernel-2.4.20-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/sda3
initrd (hd0,0)/initrd-2.4.20-gentoo-r6

-- END SNIPPET --

Also I got a couple of kernel panic errors when using the vanilla-sources (current default) to compile my kernel, using the gentoo-sources seems to fix this.
Comment 6 SpanKY gentoo-dev 2004-04-11 14:10:32 UTC
export PKGDIR=/mnt/cdrom/packages
this should already be part of the document in general

ive never had a problem personally with vmware / vanilla-sources ... just another YMMV situation i think

adding a note to the network detection that the network card in vmware is pcnet32 based would be nice

the grub config is like swift said ... changing /dev/hda to /dev/sda is not worth recreating a whole bunch of example configs ... about the only thing i might add is a note in the 'Preparing the Disks' section about how vmware uses scsi disks ... if that ...
Comment 7 Joe Eversole 2004-04-23 14:50:23 UTC
Well, My two cents on this would be that loading the module for the driver is also a YMMV thing. Gentoo relies on the on the user having a good knowledge of their system and hardware to make the choices and decisions about configuring their kernel. The fact that VMWare uses the AMD PCNet driver through it's emulator really shouldn't be something the general documentation should get into, IMO. 

It almost sounds like genkernel isn't doing it's job if there is a step necessary beyond building your sources via genkernel. Isn't the purpose of genkernel to configure and load all the correct drivers without needing to dive into the kernel config or hack through a modules aliasing?
Comment 8 Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-04-25 03:50:22 UTC
Afaik the main differences here are (1) knowing that you need pcnet32 (which is in VMWare's docs) and (2) knowing that devices are seen as SCSI disks (which is also in VMWare's docs). In general, all information is in VMWare's docs and I'm sure VMWare is better suited to update their docs when needed.

I'm marking this as WONTFIX.
Comment 9 Demis Bellot 2004-04-27 05:42:32 UTC
Also make a special mention that you must use gentoo-sources kernel unless someone can get it working with the vanilla-sources without kernel panic errors
Comment 10 SpanKY gentoo-dev 2004-04-27 15:23:43 UTC
ive always used vanilla sources (2.4.x and 2.6.x) and never had a problem