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Bug 42245 - Stage2 and USE variables unclear
Summary: Stage2 and USE variables unclear
Status: RESOLVED INVALID
Alias: None
Product: [OLD] Docs-user
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Handbook (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: High normal (vote)
Assignee: Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED)
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Reported: 2004-02-20 06:06 UTC by Collins Richey
Modified: 2004-02-24 03:16 UTC (History)
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Description Collins Richey 2004-02-20 06:06:07 UTC
It has been my experience (did not report this) and that of at least one other user that altering the USE= setting at Stage 2 to include an ambitious list of variables will result in a failed install.  The most recent case (see below) is related to USE=java enabled, but I have seen other failures.

It is my conjecture (based on negative experience) that the bootstrapped system (installed by Stage 1 emerge sync and bootstrap.sh or untarred from a Stage2 tarball) isn't really a fully capable system and should only be used to perform a plain vanilla 'emerge system' (USE=""), but the Handbook does not make this clear.  If I am wrong, then why did I and the current user experience failures?  If I am right, the documentation needs to be more clear and the discussion of USE variables postponed until Stage 3 or restrictions clearly stated.  If I am wrong, then there needs to be better testing of running a lot of USE= (especially USE=java) combinations from a Stage2 system.

Reproducible: Didn't try
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Perform Stage1 install and emerge sync, or start with Stage2
2. Add a lot of USE= settings (exp. USE="java..."
3. emerge system

Actual Results:  
Failure in some emerge during 'emerge system' (emerge db or other package)

Expected Results:  
Success, but the currently running bootstrapped system does not appear to be
capable of doing what it is asked to do.

Please refer to the recent gentoo-user thread "Clean stage2-db-4.1.25 fails".

I am not the user reporting the failure; no additional info is available.

I am asking the current user to add more information.
Comment 1 Sven Vermeulen (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-02-24 03:16:18 UTC
It needs to be tested more thoroughly, although that isn't a sinecure. Many packages in the system are affected by USE settings. It isn't a documentation bug however: the system should never break, whatever USE setting you have.