There are too many applications gathered in media-sound and it doesn't look like this can change quickly. For this I'd like to propose an ebuild that depends on all jackified applications. Helps keeping your JACK apps up-to-date, or installing all JACK apps, is very easy. If people like this it might also be cool to have some other meta packages for audio. MIDI, audio editing, streaming...
Created attachment 25021 [details] the ebuild
ebuilds are plaintext not octet-stream, re-attach the ebuild. Secondly, there are more alsa-apps than jack-apps, and you don't see meta-alsa-apps. keeping up to date is easy with just emerge -u world, anyway. This isn't the case of, for example, kde. I think if anything, there should be a DAW meta ebuild to pull everything you need in a digital audio workstation, and natually, jack is very much a basic need for a linux based DAW.
I don't think this is a sensible thing to do. If you want to keep your apps up to date, use emerge world or somesuch.
Created attachment 25252 [details] meta-digital-audio-workstation-0.1.ebuild added some other (non-JACK) packages :)
It's not only for keeping packages up-to-date - for which it *is* quite handy I think, since I don't care about keeping *all* packages up-to-date. It is also for people who do a fresh install and who want to do audio stuff with their Gentoo, without wading through the /usr/portage ebuilds looking for cool apps. Okay, I can image there are people who frown upon this meta-stuff, but you're not obliged to use it. And I think there are many people who *would* welcome an ebuild like this.
This just doen't make sense - people who are using JACK are doing so because the want the functionality that JACK provides to applications. They don't use JACK just for the sake of it. There is really no difference between a loosely related group of apps in portage and a loosely related group of emerged apps! That being said there probably are a group of apps that could be pulled together as a DAW; this is very different than just arbitarily lumping together everything that depends on JACK. If you'd like to submit the beginning of a DAW ebuild i'm sure it will appreciated. Thanks.
I just did that... check the meta-digital-audio-workstation-0.1.ebuild
No, what you've provided is a just a bunch of loosely related apps. The definition is of a DAW meta-build needs more planning than simply pulling together everything that depends on JACK (and a couple of other odds and ends.) I'm not going to bother to close this again, but i don't agree with commiting as it currently stands.
I don't really care what it looks like or what it's called, I simply think there is need for an easier way to install the large amount of audio apps available... This is what Agnula proposes: demudi-cd, demudi-compression, demudi-multitrack, demudi-dsp, demudi-editors, demudi-modtrack, demudi-video, demudi-synthesis, demudi-players, demudi-system, demudi-all, demudi-notation, demudi-mid
There's was some discussion about splitting up media-sound at bug 20963 , but no meta-packages were involved. Anyway, I don't think you would need something like what angula purposes - for expample, demudi-modtrack - I wouldn't need more than one program, if it's soundtracker or cheesetracker or whatevertracker, but not all of them, etc. a meta-daw would have to be a complete solution, and since there is some choice for the user to be made (like what editor he'd like and such), and obviously gentoo's not going to make choices for the user. What you can do, is build around it. Write a gentoo howto-daw maybe. write a script to update only packages that are under dev-sound (shouldn't be so hard, if you would like I can whip up something like that for you)
if you want to write the howto, then by all means, please do and submit it to the docs team... as dor this particular issue, we won't be adding a meta daw ebuild.
