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Bug 40357 - Run Levels should be treated as per Linux Standard
Summary: Run Levels should be treated as per Linux Standard
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Linux
Classification: Unclassified
Component: [OLD] Core system (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: High major (vote)
Assignee: Gentoo Linux bug wranglers
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: 40359 (view as bug list)
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Reported: 2004-02-04 01:07 UTC by Ian Whiting
Modified: 2004-02-04 17:25 UTC (History)
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Description Ian Whiting 2004-02-04 01:07:20 UTC
I know that I am probably going to get shot down for this one, but I really think that the run levels should be as they were supposed to be in Linux. I think that gentoo is on its own with this one (if not, then there aren't many), all the other distros use the standard run level system (1 - single user, 3 - without X, 5 with X and so on).

Think of all those Linux books out there that document the run levels and how they don't apply to gentoo. What about all those Linux administrators coming from other systems? or the people who say there is no standards in Linux and yet gentoo is adding to the differences.

I think that this is one of those things where we should be using the standard.

Reproducible: Always
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Comment 1 Ian Whiting 2004-02-04 01:29:21 UTC
*** Bug 40359 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 2 Ciaran McCreesh 2004-02-04 02:00:43 UTC
This isn't a Linux standard, it's SysV. Gentoo doesn't use a SysV-style init system. If you have broken books that call this a "Linux" thing, I suggest you contact the publishers and ask them to fix the books.
Comment 3 Sven Blumenstein (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-02-04 02:05:51 UTC
Maybe we should move the /-tree  to /c/ to make it easier for Windows Administrator to switch to Linux. Oh and while we are at it we can change /c/ to \c\.

Comment 4 Luca Barbato gentoo-dev 2004-02-04 02:17:55 UTC
Could I point you to sysvinit and jinit packages if you really want to NOT use our initscripts?

As Ciaran already told you there isn't a "Linux standard", what you want, for dubious reason, is a sysV workalike init, that IMHO is quite inferior.

Told that, you can just add another runlevel editing the /etc/inittab copy the default runlevel a couple of time put on it net.{whaever} and name it 3 , put on another net.{blah} and xdm and name it 5 and so on. You are free to mess with your inittab at will but we won't support that.

I still think that isn't necessary for most people, so closing it as INVALID
Comment 5 Ian Whiting 2004-02-04 02:46:37 UTC
I knew I was going to get shot down for this. I just think that it would be better to adopt the same system that the other linux distros use and what the books document for the run level system.

The windows thing was rather silly Sven Blumenstein, obviously windows administrators would be immediatly lost in any linux environment without any prior knowledge or training. After all, it is rather hard to point and click at the command line.
Comment 6 Ciaran McCreesh 2004-02-04 02:55:52 UTC
I suppose you'd like us to switch to .rpm whilst we're at it? If you really want that legacy SysV junk, emerge it. In the mean time, don't blame us for the errors in your books.
Comment 7 SpanKY gentoo-dev 2004-02-04 17:25:46 UTC
no sense in bashing him for making a suggestion

ian: the strength of the gentoo init system is its flexibilty ... if you want to use classical sysv init run levels, you can ...
however, we developers of Gentoo strongly feel our system is far superiour to the classical setup ... it is properly documented in our documentation section (if you feel we've missed something, please point it out so we can fix it)