On an old Dell GX270, with EXT4 / filesystem on its SATA iface, kernel hangs on boot at init stage. No errors. Last message is of init_early.sh, so openrc rc sysinit script must have started. Do not get to the coloured openrc message so fault occurs prior. Not sure if fault is init or openrc failing. No problems on alternate hardware....just this machine. 1)Have tried various kernels with no difference. Currently gentoo-sources 2.6.38-r8 2) Have tried both grub and grub2 with no change init=/bin/bash kernel parameter works, so fs is mounted ok can then bootstrap rest of system with rc sysint exec init in that order from the bash command just an exec init fails reproducing identical hang This is decidedly odd As a workaround: 1) create a bash script to do the above 2) launch the bash script as kernel parameter System then boots and runs ok Standard minimal install CD boots fine, as do other initrd based boots eg gparted iso etc. Hopefully it is me having done something stupid or missing something. Any hints welcome. Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1.boot 2. 3. Actual Results: Boot Hangs - still responds to caps lock/usb events etc Expected Results: Boot These Dells cannot run run SATA in compat mode (no bios option) Have checked fs integrity Have tried sysvinit -static Have tried playing with rc.c to vary behaviour with no result. Kernel config must be acceptable as I can bootstrap fine once I get bash up.
Please post your `emerge --info' output too.
Also, there is not any information in this bug about what is being displayed when the system hangs. We need to know that as well.
Please feel free to re-open when you can provide more information. Thanks, William
emerge --info Portage 2.1.9.49 (default/linux/x86/10.0, gcc-4.5.2, glibc-2.13-r2, 2.6.38-gentoo-r5 i686) ================================================================= System uname: Linux-2.6.38-gentoo-r5-i686-Intel-R-_Pentium-R-_4_CPU_2.80GHz-with-gentoo-2.0.2 Timestamp of tree: Tue, 17 May 2011 08:45:01 +0000 ccache version 3.1.4 [enabled] app-shells/bash: 4.2_p10 dev-lang/python: 2.7.1-r1, 3.1.3-r1, 3.2 dev-util/ccache: 3.1.4 dev-util/cmake: 2.8.4-r1 sys-apps/baselayout: 2.0.2 sys-apps/openrc: 0.8.2-r1 sys-apps/sandbox: 2.5 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.68 sys-devel/automake: 1.9.6-r3, 1.10.3, 1.11.1-r1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.21 sys-devel/gcc: 4.4.5, 4.5.2 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.1-r1 sys-devel/libtool: 2.4-r1 sys-devel/make: 3.82 sys-kernel/linux-headers: 2.6.38 (virtual/os-headers) sys-libs/glibc: 2.13-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86 ~x86" ACCEPT_LICENSE="*" CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -s -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -mmmx" CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/share/config /usr/share/gnupg/qualified.txt" CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/gentoo-release /etc/php/apache2-php5.3/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5.3/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php5.3/ext-active/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo" CXXFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -s -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -mmmx " DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles" FEATURES="assume-digests binpkg-logs ccache distlocks fail-clean fixlafiles fixpackages news parallel-fetch sandbox sfperms strict unknown-features-warn unmerge-logs unmerge-orphans userfetch" FFLAGS="" GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/gentoo ftp://ftp.swin.edu.au/gentoo" LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed" MAKEOPTS="-j2" PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages" PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT="/" PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages" PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp" PORTDIR="/usr/portage" PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/portage/local/overlay" SYNC="rsync://rsync.au.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage" USE="X acl acpi alsa apache2 automount avahi berkdb bluetooth bzip2 calendar cli cracklib crypt cups cxx dri dv dvb dvdr fortran ftp gd gdbm gif gpm handbook htmlhandbook iconv jpeg kde laptop mmx modules mp3 mudflap mysql ncurses nls nomalloccheck nptl nptlonly ogg openmp oss pam pcre perl php png postgres pppd python rar readline samba semantic-desktop session sse sse2 ssl swat sysfs tcpd tiff unicode usb v4l v4l2 x86 xinerama xorg xulrunner zip zlib" ALSA_CARDS="hda-intel" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" APACHE2_MODULES="actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache cgi cgid dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias" CALLIGRA_FEATURES="braindump flow karbon kexi kpresenter krita tables words" CAMERAS="ptp2" COLLECTD_PLUGINS="df interface irq load memory rrdtool swap syslog" ELIBC="glibc" GPSD_PROTOCOLS="ashtech aivdm earthmate evermore fv18 garmin garmintxt gpsclock itrax mtk3301 nmea ntrip navcom oceanserver oldstyle oncore rtcm104v2 rtcm104v3 sirf superstar2 timing tsip tripmate tnt ubx" INPUT_DEVICES="evdev" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" PHP_TARGETS="php5-3" RUBY_TARGETS="ruby18" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="intel" XTABLES_ADDONS="quota2 psd pknock lscan length2 ipv4options ipset ipp2p iface geoip fuzzy condition tee tarpit sysrq steal rawnat logmark ipmark dhcpmac delude chaos account" Unset: CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LINGUAS, PORTAGE_BUNZIP2_COMMAND, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/222393 is the same fault
lspci -v 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Device 0151 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] Capabilities: [e4] Vendor Specific Information: Len=06 <?> Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: Dell Device 0151 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] Memory at feb80000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K] I/O ports at ed98 [size=8] Expansion ROM at <unassigned> [disabled] Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 1 Kernel driver in use: i915 00:06.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P Processor to I/O Memory Interface (rev 02) Flags: fast devsel Memory at fecf0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Dell Device 0151 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 I/O ports at ff80 [size=32] Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Dell Device 0151 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19 I/O ports at ff60 [size=32] Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Dell Device 0151 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18 I/O ports at ff40 [size=32] Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: Dell Device 0151 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 I/O ports at ff20 [size=32] Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 20 [EHCI]) Subsystem: Dell Device 0151 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 23 Memory at ffa80800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [58] Debug port: BAR=1 offset=00a0 Kernel driver in use: ehci_hcd 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode]) Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0 Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=32 I/O behind bridge: 0000d000-0000dfff Memory behind bridge: fea00000-feafffff 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02) Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP]) Subsystem: Dell Device 0151 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18 I/O ports at 01f0 [size=8] I/O ports at 03f4 [size=1] I/O ports at 0170 [size=8] I/O ports at 0374 [size=1] I/O ports at ffa0 [size=16] Memory at feb7fc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K] Kernel driver in use: ata_piix 00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801EB (ICH5) SATA Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 8f [Master SecP SecO PriP PriO]) Subsystem: Dell Device 0151 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18 I/O ports at fe00 [size=8] I/O ports at fe10 [size=4] I/O ports at fe20 [size=8] I/O ports at fe30 [size=4] I/O ports at fea0 [size=16] Kernel driver in use: ata_piix 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Device 0151 Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 17 I/O ports at eda0 [size=32] Kernel driver in use: i801_smbus 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Device 0151 Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17 I/O ports at ee00 [size=256] I/O ports at edc0 [size=64] Memory at feb7fa00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512] Memory at feb7f900 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256] Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2 Kernel driver in use: Intel ICH 01:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Optiplex GX270 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 18 Memory at feae0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128K] I/O ports at df40 [size=64] Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [e4] PCI-X non-bridge device Capabilities: [f0] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+ Kernel driver in use: e1000
This is kernel messages (via dmesg) near point of hang (with init=/bin/bash as I don't have console attached) [ 5.476464] EXT4-fs (sda3): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null) [ 5.478886] VFS: Mounted root (ext4 filesystem) readonly on device 8:3. [ 5.481266] Freeing unused kernel memory: 384k freed [ 5.484011] Write protecting the kernel text: 5120k [ 5.486447] Write protecting the kernel read-only data: 2252k [ 6.266250] init-early.sh used greatest stack depth: 6668 bytes left At this point it hangs - no further messages unless you hotplug USB devices /dev/sda3 is the root partition It seems to be that rc sysinit appears to be firing up something that is needed for init to then be able to start properly. rc-update fsck | boot net.wlan0 | default sysctl | boot bootmisc | boot termencoding | boot killprocs | shutdown mtab | boot procfs | boot devfs | sysinit consolefont | boot root | boot consolekit | default savecache | shutdown udev | sysinit syslog-ng | default net.lo | boot xdm | default urandom | boot vixie-cron | default localmount | boot hwclock | boot dmesg | sysinit hostname | boot mount-ro | shutdown modules | boot sshd | default local | default nonetwork udev-postmount | default netmount | default keymaps | boot swap | boot I'm only curious to see if I can work out what is happening, and as I have a simple workaround I am not under any pressure. This seems to be an outlier on this hardware but finding a solution may assist someone else. (see link) The machine is only my 7yr olds new machine, recycled from my companies scrap pile due to the famous burst caps, which were promptly replaced. I won't load up kernel .config unless its requested. Other things tried in kernel build - ext4 only driver for ext2/ext3 (currently all are back) Various kernel options eg downgrading processor type from P4 to earlier With HT and without GPT partition table with EFID instead of msdos type With an without FB support (VESA) in case font stuff was giving grief
This happens to me as well. Currently using vanilla-sources 2.6.39 and a desktop profile, but I can confirm it also happened about a month ago with a hardened kernel and a hardened profile (and I've since done a clean reinstall). However, I also tried Debian Squeeze's (testing) 2.6.38 kernel, and I have *no problem whatsoever* booting with it - so I guess it must be a kernel config issue, though so far I've been unable to find out what might be misplaced. tarek's workaround (init using the bash script) worked for me as well. Root partition is Ext4. No separate /boot, and most of the drivers are built into the kernel (very few modules); no initrd, too. emerge --info : Portage 2.1.9.42 (default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop/gnome, gcc-4.4.5, libc-0-r0, 2.6.39 i686) ================================================================= System uname: Linux-2.6.39-i686-AMD_Athlon-tm-_XP_2200+-with-gentoo-2.0.2 Timestamp of tree: Sat, 11 Jun 2011 18:15:01 +0000 app-shells/bash: 4.1_p9 dev-java/java-config: 2.1.11-r3 dev-lang/python: 2.7.1-r1, 3.1.3-r1 dev-util/cmake: 2.8.4-r1 sys-apps/baselayout: 2.0.2 sys-apps/openrc: 0.8.2-r1 sys-apps/sandbox: 2.4 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.65-r1 sys-devel/automake: 1.9.6-r3, 1.10.3, 1.11.1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.20.1-r1 sys-devel/gcc: 4.4.5 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.1-r1 sys-devel/libtool: 2.2.10 sys-devel/make: 3.82 sys-kernel/linux-headers: 2.6.36.1 sys-libs/glibc: 2.12.2 virtual/os-headers: 0 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86" ACCEPT_LICENSE="* -@EULA" ACCEPT_PROPERTIES="*" ALSA_CARDS="ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1 emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" ARCH="x86" AUTOCLEAN="yes" CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CFLAGS="-O2 -march=athlon-xp -mno-3dnow -mmmx -msse -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe" CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CLEAN_DELAY="5" COLLECTD_PLUGINS="df interface irq load memory rrdtool swap syslog" COLLISION_IGNORE="/lib/modules" CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/share/config /usr/share/gnupg/qualified.txt" CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/eselect/postgresql /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/gentoo-release /etc/php/apache2-php5.3/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5.3/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php5.3/ext-active/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/language.dat.d /etc/texmf/language.def.d /etc/texmf/updmap.d /etc/texmf/web2c" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=athlon-xp -mno-3dnow -mmmx -msse -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe" DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles" ELIBC="glibc" FEATURES="assume-digests binpkg-logs buildpkg distlocks fixlafiles fixpackages news parallel-fetch protect-owned sandbox sfperms strict unknown-features-warn unmerge-logs unmerge-orphans userfetch" FFLAGS="" GENTOO_MIRRORS="ftp://ftp.rnl.ist.utl.pt/pub/gentoo/gentoo-distfiles" GRUB_MAX_KERNEL_SIZE="15" INFOPATH="/usr/share/info:/usr/share/binutils-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/2.20.1/info:/usr/share/gcc-data/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.4.5/info" INPUT_DEVICES="evdev keyboard mouse" MAKEOPTS="-j2 --load-average=1" OPENGL_PROFILE="nvidia" PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages" PORTAGE_ARCHLIST="ppc sparc64-freebsd ppc-openbsd x86-openbsd ppc64 x86-winnt x86-fbsd ppc-aix alpha arm x86-freebsd s390 amd64 arm-linux x86-macos x64-openbsd ia64-hpux hppa x86-netbsd x86-cygwin amd64-linux ia64-linux x86 sparc-solaris x64-freebsd sparc64-solaris x86-linux x64-macos sparc m68k-mint ia64 mips ppc-macos x86-interix hppa-hpux amd64-fbsd x64-solaris mips-irix m68k sh x86-solaris sparc-fbsd" PORTAGE_BINHOST_CHUNKSIZE="3000" PORTAGE_BIN_PATH="/usr/lib/portage/bin" PORTAGE_COMPRESS_EXCLUDE_SUFFIXES="css gif htm[l]? jp[e]?g js pdf png" PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT="/" PORTAGE_DEBUG="0" PORTAGE_DEPCACHEDIR="/var/cache/edb/dep" PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES="log warn error" PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILFROM="portage@localhost" PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILSUBJECT="[portage] ebuild log for ${PACKAGE} on ${HOST}" PORTAGE_ELOG_MAILURI="root" PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM="save_summary echo" PORTAGE_FETCH_CHECKSUM_TRY_MIRRORS="5" PORTAGE_FETCH_RESUME_MIN_SIZE="350K" PORTAGE_GID="250" PORTAGE_INST_GID="0" PORTAGE_INST_UID="0" PORTAGE_NICENESS="19" PORTAGE_PYM_PATH="/usr/lib/portage/pym" PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages" PORTAGE_RSYNC_RETRIES="-1" PORTAGE_SANDBOX_COMPAT_LEVEL="16" PORTAGE_SYNC_STALE="30" PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp" PORTAGE_VERBOSE="1" PORTAGE_WORKDIR_MODE="0700" PORTDIR="/usr/portage" PRELINK_PATH_MASK="/usr/lib/libfreebl3.so:/usr/lib/libnssdbm3.so:/usr/lib/libsoftokn3.so" PROFILE_ONLY_VARIABLES="ARCH ELIBC KERNEL USERLAND" PWD="/root" PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE="1" SHELL="/bin/bash" SYNC="rsync://ftp.rnl.ist.utl.pt/gentoo-portage" USE="X a52 aac acl acpi alsa audiofile bash-completion bcmath-Xaw3d berkdb branding bzip2 cairo calendar cdda cddb cdparanoia cdr cgi cjk clamav cli consolekit cracklib crypt css cups cvs cxx dbus device-mapper djvu dri dts dv dvd dvdr encode exif extras fam fat fbcon ffmpeg fftw firefox flac gd gdbm gdu gif gnome gnome-keyring gnuplot gphoto2 gpm gsm gstreamer gtk gzip hddtemp hfs iconv imap ipv6 jfs jpeg jpeg2k kerberos latex lcms libnotify lm_sensors lzma lzo mad mercurial mmx mng modules mozilla mp3 mp4 mpeg mplayer msn mssql mtp mudflap musepack mysql nautilus ncurses nls nntp nptl nptlonly ntfs ogg openal opengl pam pango pch pcre pdf perl png postgres ppds pppd pulseaudio python qt3support qt4 quicktime raw rdesktop readline reiser4 reiserfs rss ruby samba sdl session sndfile sockets sox speex spell sqlite sqlite3 sse ssl startup-notification subversion svg sysfs tcl tcpd threads thumbnail tiff timidity tk truetype udev unicode usb v4l2 videos vim-sintax vnc vorbis wavpack wifi win32codecs wmf x264 x86 xcb xfs xine xml xorg xpm xulrunner xv xvid zip zlib" ALSA_CARDS="ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1 emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" COLLECTD_PLUGINS="df interface irq load memory rrdtool swap syslog" ELIBC="glibc" INPUT_DEVICES="evdev keyboard mouse" KERNEL="linux" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="nouveau nv nvidia fbdev vesa"
Since we're not able to reproduce this, can you guys please add some debug print/echo calls to e.g. /lib/rc/sh/init-early.sh? Just to see whether it leaves the init-early or not and if it does then check the next ones till you find anything that could help us to fix the issue.
At the time I improvised a dirty fix and left it like that until now; I've just found this: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-880149.html?sid=7de597df34c53ddac05ecde28596c507 I don't know how I missed it then but it's all good now.
Ok, pleas re-open in case it's still persistent.
