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Bug 36314 - Eclipse 3.0M6 and some other eclipse related ebuilds
Summary: Eclipse 3.0M6 and some other eclipse related ebuilds
Status: RESOLVED INVALID
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Linux
Classification: Unclassified
Component: New packages (show other bugs)
Hardware: All All
: High normal (vote)
Assignee: Java team
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Reported: 2003-12-22 12:42 UTC by Tobias Minich
Modified: 2004-02-02 11:07 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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Attachments
Eclipse 3.0M6 platform-bin (eclipse-platform-bin-3.0_pre6.ebuild,905 bytes, text/plain)
2003-12-22 12:45 UTC, Tobias Minich
Details
Eclipse 3.0M6 jdt-bin (eclipse-jdt-bin-3.0_pre6.ebuild,662 bytes, text/plain)
2003-12-22 12:47 UTC, Tobias Minich
Details
Eclipse 3.0M6 ftp-webdav-bin (eclipse-ftp-webdav-bin-3.0_pre6.ebuild,682 bytes, text/plain)
2003-12-22 12:48 UTC, Tobias Minich
Details
Eclipse Technology XSD (eclipse-technology-xsd-2.0.0.20031219.ebuild,667 bytes, text/plain)
2003-12-22 12:49 UTC, Tobias Minich
Details
eclipse-start-conf (eclipse,1.03 KB, application/octet-stream)
2004-01-08 11:49 UTC, Qui Gon
Details
eclipse-start-conf (eclipse,1.04 KB, text/plain)
2004-01-08 14:09 UTC, Qui Gon
Details
eclipse-start-conf (eclipse,1.03 KB, text/plain)
2004-01-08 14:14 UTC, Qui Gon
Details

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Description Tobias Minich 2003-12-22 12:42:39 UTC
Eclipse 3.0M6 ebuilds for:
platform-bin
jdt-bin
ftp-webdav-bin

and from the Eclipse Technology project:
xsd
Comment 1 Tobias Minich 2003-12-22 12:45:45 UTC
Created attachment 22552 [details]
Eclipse 3.0M6 platform-bin
Comment 2 Tobias Minich 2003-12-22 12:47:27 UTC
Created attachment 22553 [details]
Eclipse 3.0M6 jdt-bin
Comment 3 Tobias Minich 2003-12-22 12:48:23 UTC
Created attachment 22554 [details]
Eclipse 3.0M6 ftp-webdav-bin
Comment 4 Tobias Minich 2003-12-22 12:49:31 UTC
Created attachment 22555 [details]
Eclipse Technology XSD
Comment 5 Tobias Minich 2003-12-23 13:54:46 UTC
Sorry, just read that the bin packages are going to be deprectated. Perhaps at least the xsd build is of some use ^^'
Comment 6 Qui Gon 2004-01-06 05:10:04 UTC
Yea, someone got the superior idea to remove the bin-ebuilds for eclipse, but doesnt provide working source-ebuilds. This is completely idiotic. Sorry, but IF some devels are going to replace something, I expect to see the WORKING replacement.
E.g. WORKSPACE for the m5-Ebuild of Ecl3.0 is set to $HOME/.eclipse? The default is $HOME/workspace? Who defined that? Those who want .eclipse can set it on their on, but please KEEP the defaults, since our Devel-Environemts may suffer from Path-Inkonsistencies.

Is anyone else willing to take the Job for Updating-Eclipse-Ebuilds? The current guy, who's responsible for this doesn't get it!
Comment 7 Karl Trygve Kalleberg (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-01-08 10:43:16 UTC
I'm the guy who doesn't get it. 

The reason things keep breaking is that all of this is in ~arch, which means that they are available for testing, not for production use.

I'm naturally not entirely happy about that, but I've been very clear on the -dev mailing list and in reply to the various -bin submissions about our move over to from-source ebuilds.

We've had discussions on various bug-reports, a few mails to -dev, and some discussions on #gentoo-java about this, but it seems that very few people use the eclipse ebuilds and those who do generally don't speak up with feedback.

Consequently, the changes have slow in coming and have been left mostly on the backburner, as I have had no incentive not to prioritise other areas.

That being said, if somebody feels better suited to handle the switch-over, please step up, and I'll get you in touch with recruiting, so we can get you fixed up with cvs access. 
Comment 8 Todd Berman (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-01-08 11:30:48 UTC
I feel I have to chime in here.

Honestly Qui Gon that is seriously disrespectful. Do you have working from source ebuilds that you can give to karl to look at?

And as far as anyone else willing to maintain it, I promise you this:

You provide me with new ebuilds, and I will commit them to ~arch as is, and assign to *YOU* all possible bug reports.
Comment 9 Qui Gon 2004-01-08 11:49:29 UTC
Created attachment 23405 [details]
eclipse-start-conf
Comment 10 Qui Gon 2004-01-08 11:52:54 UTC
NO, I'm neither "hating" this work, nor do I flame at this.
I've been working with eclipse for quite a long time now, and I dislike this damn "we go for source only"-yada-yada. People, including me, have submitted bin-ebuilds for eclipse for ANY version, i.e. sdk, platform and jdt, and these were never submitted to the portage with the comment, that gentoo os going for source only.
I also don't think, you need any motif-support, when using GTK in the USE-Flags and simultaneously having kde as USE-Flag. If I want motif, then I will certainly put it into the USE-Flag.

I also don't think, that anyone wants 
WORKBENCH="${HOME}/.eclipse/"
and
cd ${WORKBENCH}
in his/her eclise-script, since the bin-Versions always used $HOME/workspace.
I bet this dotted eclipse-directory isn't used by anyone, since dotted directories are hidden by default. Config-Files are ok, but it's fatal for a development workspace.

This should be kept as
WORKBENCH="${HOME}/workspace/"
and NO ``cd $WORKBENCH" before starting!

If you don't like ASCII-Hunting, the file is attached.

Keep what I'm saying as you like, but stay with default options and provide advanced options for those who want it.
And I really appreciate keeping the binary-ebuilds for eclipse up2date, until you are 120% sure, the sources can SEAMLESSLY replace the binary-version.
Don't make any half things...!
Comment 11 Todd Berman (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2004-01-08 12:09:05 UTC
that file was uploaded incorrectly and is unviewable through bugzilla, please upload a new one marking it as text/plain and expring the old one
Comment 12 Qui Gon 2004-01-08 14:09:41 UTC
Created attachment 23416 [details]
eclipse-start-conf
Comment 13 Qui Gon 2004-01-08 14:13:43 UTC
Comment on attachment 23416 [details]
eclipse-start-conf

original version (wrong)
Comment 14 Qui Gon 2004-01-08 14:14:45 UTC
Created attachment 23417 [details]
eclipse-start-conf

Suggested eclipse-start-config for /usr/bin