Following the link on mailing lists bug submission. If such bugs should be addressed elsewhere please advise/reroute. For some reason my emails (by <george@gentoo.org>) do not seem to reach lists, when I reply or post. Just today I was posting to gentoo-science, replying to "Gentoo Science next meeting agenda - 5) fortran" by Kacper Kowalik http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-science/msg_51105dfd59f1fcbb2035dd9daa64c050.xml (no replies in the thread). However my message did not appear in the archive, http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-science/ nor was it seen by Donnie Berkholz, who is on that list (see here: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com/2010/12/02/linux-problems-you-never-considered-handling-fortran90-modules-for-multiple-compilers/#comments ) This did not seem to happed a month or so ago (same list) and does not seem to happen to direct to-person replies. The message seemed to have been submitted Ok and I did not get any rejection emails. I am using kmail-1.13.5 (KDE 4.5.3). Mail is submitted via gmail.com - I am using this setup since forever, as some years ago using gentoo infrastructure for sending was discouraged. Are there known issues with gmail by chance (I think it sometimes rewrites headers, as people tend to reply to my gmail.com email instead of initially listed one, if I use it as a transport). Should I use gentoo.org for posting instead?
please give me: 1. your gmail account name 2. the message-id for the mail that didn't arrive 3. What UTC time did you send the email?
> 1. your gmail account name gshapovalov > 2. the message-id for the mail that didn't arrive201012060958.00019.george@gentoo.org > 3. What UTC time did you send the email? Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 09:57:59 +0100
your envelope MAIL FROM is wrong, and your mail was dropped for that reason. Your mail should have both the envelope and From: header matching your subscription address. Alternatively, add the OTHER address to the nomail subscriptions. We do want to deny the mails at the SMTP level in future.
(In reply to comment #3) > your envelope MAIL FROM is wrong, and your mail was dropped for that reason. Could you please forward the received mail to me please, so that I could see what you are talking about? Here in sent-mail (the outmost of the message I can see) there is no MAIL FROM header, only FROM and that is <george@gentoo.org>. As I said, I suspect that google edits/adds headers to point all the traffic they can get hands on their way. Do you have any comments on that (i.e., should I try to avoid them in general)? And, finally, how should I resolve this? Is it Ok to use gentoo infrastructure for sending related mail nowadays? It was discouraged when I was initially setting it up (like 8 years ago), but I think I saw some messages recently (~1 year ago :)) that it is Ok now?
Here's the mail log data. from= is where Postfix logs the MAIL FROM envelope. Dec 6 08:58:04 pigeon postfix/smtpd[10084]: 4AC5BE05B9: client=mail-ww0-f53.google.com[74.125.82.53] Dec 6 08:58:04 pigeon postfix/cleanup[9000]: 4AC5BE05B9: message-id=<201012060958.00019.george@gentoo.org> Dec 6 08:58:04 pigeon postfix/qmgr[17235]: 4AC5BE05B9: from=<gshapovalov@gmail.com>, size=3892, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Dec 6 08:58:04 pigeon postfix/qmgr[17235]: 4AC5BE05B9: removed Dec 6 08:58:04 pigeon postfix/local[9769]: 4AC5BE05B9: to=<gentoo-science@lists.gentoo.org>, relay=local, delay=0.47, delays=0.46/0/0/0.01, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: /usr/bin/mlmmj-recieve -L /var/lists/gentoo-science/) "MAIL FROM" is in the envelope, NOT any of the headers. Other developers manage to use Gmail fine to send mail... It's been perfectly fine and has been explicitly documented as allowed for about 18 months: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/infrastructure/dev-email.xml
