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Bug 2914 - Update prozilla search sources
Summary: Update prozilla search sources
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Portage Development
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Unclassified (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: High minor (vote)
Assignee: Ben Lutgens (RETIRED)
URL: http://prozilla.delrom.ro/
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Reported: 2002-05-22 08:52 UTC by Chris Carlin
Modified: 2011-10-30 22:17 UTC (History)
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Description Chris Carlin 2002-05-22 08:52:12 UTC
It kind of looks like this might require patching and not just updating of a
program version, but...

The version of prozilla currently in portage tries unsuccessfully to find
download mirrors from ftpsearch.lycos.com, which no longer searches ftp sites.
The website has a new version of prozilla that searches somewhere else, but it
might be an only graphical version of the program. I'm not positive what's going
on over there.

I list this under portage because prozilla is probably used by many people
mostly for downloading the packages they're installing. It's important enough to
be included in the example make.conf file, for one thing, and its proper usage
would also help spread bandwidth around instead of hitting a few server.
Comment 1 Sandy McArthur 2002-05-22 09:13:16 UTC
I won't fix this. As a server admin I find prozilla and any other "download
manager" that does many simultaneous downloads as unsocial and poorly behaived.
Servers are often configured to provide the best overall experience to the most
number of users. When a user is so selfish to think that for some reason they
deserve more bandwidth and make many connections which creates a heavier load on
the server I stop wanting them as a user.
Comment 2 Chris Carlin 2002-05-22 22:06:46 UTC
Well first of all, it's the responsibility of the server to enforce good
behavior upon its users. To try to enforce good behavior by the crippling of the
clients is somewhat misguided.

More importantly, though, fixing this bug would have the main effect of stopping
a group of people from making multiple connections to one server by giving them
the ability to download from multiple sources instead. 

Because of this, a fix would be very good for both users and servers.
Comment 3 Ben Lutgens (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2002-07-16 20:18:53 UTC
solution: don't use ftpsearch.  Prozilla will still download just fine in 
multiple threads from the urls you give it. 
Comment 4 Chris Carlin 2002-07-17 02:34:19 UTC
By "the urls you give it", you mean the single url gentoo provides the downloader?

This is not a solution to the bug at all, you would be better off saying
"solution: use wget instead of prozilla".

Come on, I know I shouldn't have to spell it out to you...
unless Gentoo (portage or whatever) gives prozilla multiple urls from which to
download, and as far as I know it does not, prozilla will basically be hogging
bandwidths of the servers by subverting per-connection caps. The other side of
the coin is that if prozilla was given multiple sources and/or the ability to
find the sources on its own was fixed, then there would be quite a bit of
benefit that would come from spreading of bandwidth usage.

Basically you need to either come up with a way to provide prozilla with
multiple URLs, fix its ability to search, or configure it by default to use
singlethreaded downloading.