Hi, I want to ask why xorg-server depends on following packages: media-fonts/font-adobe-100dpi media-fonts/font-adobe-75dpi Dependency seems illogical, not needed (as no one wants to use those fonts; and who really wants, knows it), and causes at least those problems: 1] by default configuration, bitmap fonts are prioritized above .ttf fonts of same name; therefore (for example) helvetica fonts are rendered ugly in many applications. 2] using those fonts somehow causes problems with several configurations (one is radeon+xnest, second is just radeon and upgraded system. I will ask the corresponging people to provide detailed affected package versions, as soon as I can.) Screen with example is at [1], sorry for linking tinypic. (Also, I know this is more like a problem of pango/xft/another renderer; but is triggered only by those fonts.) 3] bug #249190 and this xorg-server dependency inevitably cripple all peaceful efforts to remove both adobe-fonts; so user always ends at rm -rf. I guess that given enough search, one could come with more issues. It would be nice to have the dependencies disabled, so gentoo systems are 100% usuable without any deeper xft know-how. If I missed a good reason why the fonts MUST be installed, please explain it. Thanks exa Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1.install xorg-server 2.see the fonts are bad
... and the image I forgot to link comes here ... [1] http://i40.tinypic.com/2j9mbm.jpg again, sorry for tinypic.
Removed in 1.6 still present in 1.3 and 1.5 Not sure why it is needed in 1.5. @remi/donnie: do you know why it is still at 1.5. I thought it is needed only for 1.3
Created attachment 188448 [details] mirror of tinypic picture showing the problem. Wow, I can attach it here!
I think you're having driver issues rather than font issues... Please attach your xorg.conf, your Xorg.0.log and please paste the output of emerge --info
(In reply to comment #2) > Removed in 1.6 > still present in 1.3 and 1.5 > Not sure why it is needed in 1.5. > @remi/donnie: do you know why it is still at 1.5. I thought it is needed only > for 1.3 Needed for some utilities that are part of 1.5, xorgcfg wasn't it?
There are too many issues being mentioned in this bug to ever be productive : - core X fonts should render properly, if not, that's a bug of its own - toolkits and applications are responsible for the fonts they use, if you have issues with specific apps and toolkits, please file bugs against them - we are slowly but surely working on getting rid of core X fonts as much as possible In short, please don't hesitate to open new bugs for each issue you might have. Thanks
