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Bug 264800 - kde use flag should be kde3 or kde4
Summary: kde use flag should be kde3 or kde4
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Linux
Classification: Unclassified
Component: New packages (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: High normal (vote)
Assignee: Gentoo KDE team
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Reported: 2009-04-03 21:51 UTC by xiando
Modified: 2009-05-25 23:08 UTC (History)
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Description xiando 2009-04-03 21:51:47 UTC
A whole range of software has a USE flag named "kde".

It would be excellent if all/most of them/as many as possible could please use "kde3" or "kde4" instead as it is increasingly hard to tell what KDE version is expected when the USE flag is only named "kde".

"qt" seems to be changed to qt3/qt4 now, "kde" should be kde3 or kde4 also

Reproducible: Always
Comment 1 Tomáš Chvátal (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2009-04-05 18:13:55 UTC
No by me. It is really not worth the efforts.
Lets see what others will say, but by me it would be WONTFIX maybe even CANTFIX
Comment 2 xiando 2009-04-06 00:18:25 UTC
gnash-cvs has the use flags "kde" and "kde4" because it supports both.

It should be obvious that it would be better to call these flags "kde3" and "kde4" and not just "kde" (and "kde4").

It's worse with apps who only support kde4 or only kde3 and only have a "kde" useflag. Some may not want KDE4, some may not want KDE3.

It's obviously not a CANTFIX as this can be fixed. WONTFIX it if you want, I'm used to bugs not being fixed due to "we plan to rewrite this so we won't accept the working patch" (and two years after genkernel still don't support genkernel). Guess I can patch the ebuilds myself, just like I still patch genkernel myself every new release.
Comment 3 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto (RETIRED) Gentoo Infrastructure gentoo-dev 2009-04-06 17:00:25 UTC
Looking at the precedent of gnome/gnome2, sqlite/sqlite3 and others, we should really kill any reference to kde3/kde4.
The kde use flag should enable support/bindings/... for the KDE Desktop Environment. If a particular app supports both kde3 and kde4, maintainers should opt for kde4, unless the app is deemed to have better support for kde3 and has some faulty support for kde4. The road ahead is to migrate to kde4 and to eventually drop kde3.
Comment 4 Theo Chatzimichos (RETIRED) archtester gentoo-dev Security 2009-05-25 23:08:32 UTC
We discussed about this in the last KDE Team's meeeting, below is the summary:

kde/kde3 useflag
we voted about it, result:
kde - latest supported kde 4, 5, whatever
kde3 - for now kde 3 series, when kde5 is out there will be kde4 useflag and so on,...
as long as new version is expected to be highly experimental we will have kdeX where X is the version number. When proper support in portage arrives it mutate into kde and older kde mutate to kdeY where Y is X-1