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Bug 255274 - Funding request: SATA HDD for SuperH development board
Summary: Funding request: SATA HDD for SuperH development board
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Linux
Classification: Unclassified
Component: [OLD] Unspecified (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: High normal (vote)
Assignee: Gentoo Board of Trustees
URL:
Whiteboard: finance-audit:2016/08/09
Keywords:
Depends on:
Blocks:
 
Reported: 2009-01-17 15:19 UTC by Raúl Porcel (RETIRED)
Modified: 2016-08-09 18:21 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

See Also:
Package list:
Runtime testing required: ---


Attachments
funding-request.txt (funding-request.txt,1.00 KB, text/plain)
2009-01-17 15:20 UTC, Raúl Porcel (RETIRED)
Details
funding-request-v2.txt (funding-request.txt,955 bytes, text/plain)
2009-01-19 19:44 UTC, Raúl Porcel (RETIRED)
Details
Invoice (dsc03449.jpg,131.72 KB, image/jpeg)
2009-02-26 17:02 UTC, Raúl Porcel (RETIRED)
Details

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Description Raúl Porcel (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2009-01-17 15:19:53 UTC
Renesas sent me a superh developer board, for doing Gentoo SuperH development on it i need an HDD.
Comment 1 Raúl Porcel (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2009-01-17 15:20:56 UTC
Created attachment 178796 [details]
funding-request.txt
Comment 2 Ferris McCormick (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2009-01-17 15:53:13 UTC
I recommend approval.  (I've been working closely with Raúl on sparc for some time.)
Comment 3 Petteri Räty (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2009-01-17 16:40:16 UTC
I have some extras around so I could also mail one if it's cost efficient.
Comment 4 franky 2009-01-17 17:20:03 UTC
Hey guys,

Sorry to interrupt here. Are you sure you wanna buy a seagate hdd?
According to this article (and many more) http://techreport.com/discussions.x/16246, certain 7200.11 seagate models including the Barracuda 7200.11 SATA 3Gb/s 500-GB Hard Drive ST3500320AS, could have some serious issues.

Wouldn't it be better to consider buying the following hdd: 
Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136218

More capacity and faster tansfer speeds, costs about 74.99$, definitely not affected by some firmware troubles...
Comment 5 Petteri Räty (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2009-01-19 12:22:04 UTC
Shipping to Spain would be 10,35€ or if it fits a smaller envelope 6,20€.
Comment 6 Raúl Porcel (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2009-01-19 19:44:16 UTC
Created attachment 179014 [details]
funding-request-v2.txt

Changed the Seagate HDD with a WD. Yet Petteri's offer is good, its up to the trustees to decide.
Comment 7 Ferris McCormick (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2009-01-19 19:56:46 UTC
I'd prefer to spend money on something that works, but I don't have any feel for how "bad" the seagate drive actually is.  So I'll defer to whoever actually knows.
Comment 8 Matt Summers (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2009-01-19 20:16:09 UTC
Just out of curiosity, is there any need for a large HDD? If no, then I would recommend one of the Seagate 7200.10 160GB drives, they are <$50 (newegg) and fast enough for most dev activities. There is an 80GB drive as well for ~$35. Buy 2 & run SW raid1 for happiness & joy.  Now, Seagate drives are, for the most part, very solid drives.  I must say I have not used any of the TiB+ drives that are experiencing firmware issues, I do have a bunch of the ES & ES.2 drives in production now.  I have always had bad luck with WD drives failing really early unless they are extremely well cooled.
Comment 9 Petteri Räty (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2009-01-19 20:32:30 UTC
(In reply to comment #8)
> Just out of curiosity, is there any need for a large HDD? If no, then I would
> recommend one of the Seagate 7200.10 160GB drives, they are <$50 (newegg) and
> fast enough for most dev activities. There is an 80GB drive as well for ~$35.
> 

Yeah but we probably don't want to ship the drive from US to Spain so local prices are what's important here.
Comment 10 Raúl Porcel (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2009-01-20 10:22:47 UTC
(In reply to comment #8)
> Just out of curiosity, is there any need for a large HDD? If no, then I would
> recommend one of the Seagate 7200.10 160GB drives, they are <$50 (newegg) and
> fast enough for most dev activities. There is an 80GB drive as well for ~$35.
> Buy 2 & run SW raid1 for happiness & joy.  Now, Seagate drives are, for the
> most part, very solid drives.  I must say I have not used any of the TiB+
> drives that are experiencing firmware issues, I do have a bunch of the ES &
> ES.2 drives in production now.  I have always had bad luck with WD drives
> failing really early unless they are extremely well cooled.
> 
WESTERN DIGITAL SATA2 500GB 7200 16MB = 57.13 EUR = $75.11 USD = $0.15 USD/GB
WESTERN DIGITAL SATA2 320GB 7200 16MB = 45.75 EUR = $59.30 USD = $0.18 USD/GB
SEAGATE SATA2 250GB 7200 8MB = 40.81 EUR = $52.90 USD = $0.21 USD/GB <- guessing this would be 7200.10, its not specified
SEAGATE SATA2 160GB 7200 8MB = 36.69 EUR = $47.52 USD = $0.29 USD/GB <- guessing this would be 7200.10, its not specified
SEAGATE SATA2 80GB 7200 8MB = 33.36 EUR = $43.21 USD = $0.54 USD/GB

I'm just choosing 500GB because is what has better capacity for the price. Thats the way it is in Spain.

Besides, please read the following link, as ES.2 SATA2 drives are affected as well:
http://seagate.custkb.com/seagate/crm/selfservice/news.jsp?DocId=207931
Also there are 160, 250, 320, 500, 640 and 750GB drives affected. In fact i have the 500GB model, which is what i was going to buy for this.

I'd like to install the system ASAP, so i don't really care what gets choosed :)
Comment 11 Ferris McCormick (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2009-01-20 14:26:25 UTC
500GB is fine with me.  I still would approve whatever you think is best for your needs.  So from me, there is a standing vote to approve.
Comment 12 Roy Bamford gentoo-dev 2009-01-26 21:11:10 UTC
lets not reinvent the wheel and spend ages debating what colour its should be.
(Thanks Douglas Adams) If shipping from Petteri makes sense do it.
If buying locally make sense, do that.

We need to allow applicants to exercise their engineering judegement to some degree. I'm in favour of Raúl getting a drive for the superh developer board using either of the above methods.

Sourcing in the USA is not an option. There will be duties and VAT to pay at European customs.  
Comment 13 Raúl Porcel (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2009-02-12 14:55:53 UTC
Just FYI:

Tsunam approved it and he was going to do the transfer, but i bought the hdd first. Turned out I either had a bad Molex-SATA power adapter, or something, as the board wasn't able to start with it plugged, but was able to start with an IDE disk(The board has Molex, yet it has only SATA interface). Therefore i suspect a bad Molex-SATA power adapter, so i need to go and buy one, but i haven't had time yet as i have a cold.

Next week probably. For now i'm doing the work on an USB stick.
Comment 14 Raúl Porcel (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2009-02-26 16:49:51 UTC
(In reply to comment #13)

I've bought the molex-sata power adapter. The HDD works fine now. I've pinged tsunam to refund the money.

Comment 15 Raúl Porcel (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2009-02-26 17:02:26 UTC
Created attachment 183283 [details]
Invoice
Comment 16 Joshua Jackson (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2009-04-22 15:43:07 UTC
Funds sent after paypal is happy again. Sorry for the delay
Comment 17 Robin Johnson archtester Gentoo Infrastructure gentoo-dev Security 2016-08-09 18:21:59 UTC
Logged expenses/20090226_bug255274_armin76.txt