The problem exists on my desktop after emerging compiz-fusion and running it via fusion-icon on kde 3.5.10 with xorg-server-1.5.3 and xf86-input-evdev-2.10. When the up key is pressed ksnapshot starts. But only in Kde applications (maybe all qt applications). In gtk apps (like firefox) ksnapshop only starts if the application does not handle the up key. I disabled the keyboard shortcut for ksapshot (print screen). Did not helh. Then I tried to disable the screenshot schortcuts via ccsm. It seems that the configuration change is not saved atfer exiting ccsm. When I start it again its set to "print screen" and "alt+print screen" again. Keyboard layouts are disabled in kde control center. Keyboard configuration in xorg.conf: Driver "evdev" Option "GrabDevice" "Yes" Option "XkbRules" "xorg" Option "XkbModel" "evdev" Option "XkbLayout" "de" Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" Option "AutoRepeat" "300 30" xev output the following after pressing the up key: KeymapNotify event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x0, keys: 4294967179 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 I dont know if it's a bug in evdev, xkeyboard-layout, xorg-server, kde or compiz. But definetely it is triggered by compiz as everything works as expected if i dont start it. Best regards, Marco Reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1. emerge compiz-fusion 2. start it (for example via "fusion-icon) 3. hold the up key for 2 seconds Actual Results: You see that many ksnapshot windows open Expected Results: The active application should handle the up key Portage 2.1.6.2 (default/linux/amd64/2008.0, gcc-4.3.2, glibc-2.9_p20081201-r0, 2.6.28-rc9-ikarus x86_64) ================================================================= System uname: Linux-2.6.28-rc9-ikarus-x86_64-Intel-R-_Core-TM-2_Quad_CPU_Q9450_@_2.66GHz-with-glibc2.2.5 Timestamp of tree: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:00:01 +0000 app-shells/bash: 3.2_p48 dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7-r1, 2.1.6-r1 dev-lang/python: 2.4.4-r13, 2.5.2-r8 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r6 dev-util/cmake: 2.6.2 sys-apps/baselayout: 2.0.0 sys-apps/openrc: 0.4.0 sys-apps/sandbox: 1.2.18.1-r3 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.63 sys-devel/automake: 1.5, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2, 1.10.2 sys-devel/binutils: 2.19 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.0-r4 sys-devel/libtool: 2.2.6a virtual/os-headers: 2.6.27-r2 ABI="amd64" ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64 ~amd64 ~x86" ALSA_CARDS="ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" ANT_HOME="/usr/share/ant" APACHE2_MODULES="actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias" APACHE2_MPMS="worker" ARCH="amd64" ASFLAGS_x86="--32" AUTOCLEAN="yes" CAMERAS="canon" CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu" CDEFINE_amd64="__x86_64__" CDEFINE_x86="__i386__" CDF_BASE="/usr" CDF_BIN="${CDF_BASE}/bin" CDF_HELP="${CDF_BASE}/lib/cdf/help" CDF_INC="${CDF_BASE}/include" CDF_LIB="${CDF_BASE}/lib" CFLAGS="-O3 -pipe -march=core2 -fomit-frame-pointer" CFLAGS_x86="-m32" CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu" CHOST_amd64="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu" CHOST_x86="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CLASSPATH="." 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The following kde bug seems to be related: http://bugs.kde.org/125559 I see that http://bugs.gentoo.org/153115 is related also, but I could not reopen it and it's not exactly the same because compiz is not involved there.
Both of those bugs are most probably not related to this problem. This looks like a problem with your config. This tends to happen if you use evdev driver, but set your keyboard model as something different than evdev. Most likely you've either didn't set it up correctly in hal or KDE is overriding keyboard settings with incorrect values (keyboard should be set to "evdev managed", if at all). And GrabDevice shouldn't be really needed unless you do something strange or incorrectly (it WORKSFORME). To make a certain detail clear: does this happen in KDE, if you run it in a different way than via "fusion-icon" ?
Hello Rafal, (In reply to comment #2) > Both of those bugs are most probably not related to this problem. > > This looks like a problem with your config. > > This tends to happen if you use evdev driver, but > set your keyboard model as something different than evdev. > > Most likely you've either didn't set it up correctly in hal > or KDE is overriding keyboard settings with incorrect values > (keyboard should be set to "evdev managed", if at all). > kde should not touch the keyboard layout because the "Tastaturlayout aktivieren" checkbox is not checked. I'll try setting this to evdev managed anyway. hal is running but the xserver is started with AutoAddDevices disabled. There are only the two "hard wired" evdev keyboards that I have defined in xorg.conf > And GrabDevice shouldn't be really needed unless you do > something strange or incorrectly (it WORKSFORME). I had to activate GrabDevice after the evdev update. Disabled is default now. All Ctrl+C fall through to my xinitrc and therefore abruptly end my session if I disable it. > > To make a certain detail clear: does this happen in KDE, if > you run it in a different way than via "fusion-icon" ? > I start it with LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 kstart compiz -- \ --sm-disable \ --indirect-rendering \ --replace \ ccp now. Same result. Best regards, Marco
Hello Rafal, > > (keyboard should be set to "evdev managed", if at all). > > > > kde should not touch the keyboard layout because the "Tastaturlayout > aktivieren" checkbox is not checked. I'll try setting this to evdev managed > anyway. Setting all evdev settings in kde solved the problem for me! Thanks for the hint. I still don't understand why setting this in kde affects the problem. kde actually activates the same settings that were active before. Does compiz read this configuration and handle it differently? Best Regards, Marco