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Bug 205554 - Post a public announcement about the current affairs
Summary: Post a public announcement about the current affairs
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Linux
Classification: Unclassified
Component: [OLD] Unspecified (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: High normal with 1 vote (vote)
Assignee: Gentoo Council
URL:
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Keywords:
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Blocks:
 
Reported: 2008-01-13 00:08 UTC by Aniruddha
Modified: 2008-01-15 10:02 UTC (History)
9 users (show)

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Description Aniruddha 2008-01-13 00:08:06 UTC
I think we need to get a message out soon, preferably by Chris or Grant about the current state of affairs or more specifically why:

-Gentoo Foundation's charter has been revoked 
-Daniel Robbins is still listed as President of the Gentoo Foundation 

Things seem to get a bit out of control  communication wise*. As always I am ready to help, just let me know.

*
http://osnews.com/story/19148/Daniel_Robbins_Offer_for_Gentoo

http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/12/0152208

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-644321-highlight-.html

Reproducible: Always
Comment 1 Alex Howells (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2008-01-13 00:09:56 UTC
This is not assigned correctly. This has nothing to do with Infra.
Comment 2 Aniruddha 2008-01-13 00:12:11 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> This is not assigned correctly. This has nothing to do with Infra.
> 

Should it be under Gentoo?
Comment 3 Jakub Moc (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2008-01-13 00:13:44 UTC
 ____ ___ ____ ____  _     ___  ____  _ 
/ ___|_ _/ ___|  _ \| |   / _ \|  _ \| |
\___ \| | |  _| |_) | |  | | | | |_) | |
 ___) | | |_| |  __/| |__| |_| |  __/|_|
|____/___\____|_|   |_____\___/|_|   (_)
Comment 4 Aniruddha 2008-01-13 00:15:56 UTC
(In reply to comment #3)
>  ____ ___ ____ ____  _     ___  ____  _ 
> / ___|_ _/ ___|  _ \| |   / _ \|  _ \| |
> \___ \| | |  _| |_) | |  | | | | |_) | |
>  ___) | | |_| |  __/| |__| |_| |  __/|_|
> |____/___\____|_|   |_____\___/|_|   (_)
> 

?
Comment 5 Alec Warner (RETIRED) archtester gentoo-dev Security 2008-01-13 00:20:31 UTC
Announcements were authored and are awaiting approval from pr before being posted.
Comment 6 Aniruddha 2008-01-13 00:24:48 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)
> Announcements were authored and are awaiting approval from pr before being
> posted.
> 

Thanks! That is good to know :)
Comment 7 Donnie Berkholz (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2008-01-13 00:56:22 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)
> Announcements were authored and are awaiting approval from pr before being
> posted.

I didn't see them on the pr alias, and you aren't on #gentoo-pr. Could you point me in the right direction?
Comment 8 Alec Warner (RETIRED) archtester gentoo-dev Security 2008-01-13 01:09:17 UTC
(In reply to comment #7)
> (In reply to comment #5)
> > Announcements were authored and are awaiting approval from pr before being
> > posted.
> 
> I didn't see them on the pr alias, and you aren't on #gentoo-pr. Could you
> point me in the right direction?
> 

I shall have to poke my man slave to forward them.

[+astinus]

whats the holdup yo.

-Alec
Comment 9 Alex Howells (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2008-01-13 01:25:14 UTC
Ah, forgot to post the link to the pr@ alias - sorry ;)  Sent now.

As to the hold-up, well that'd be the episode of CSI which I just watched. Unfortunately meant I wasn't looking at IRC and Bugs for ~45 minutes.

Off-topic Hint: bull riding is dangerous and really messes up your spine. Anyone looking for a fast way into a casket is encouraged to try this sport ;-)
Comment 10 SpanKY gentoo-dev 2008-01-13 01:35:36 UTC
Jakub: please refrain from ever using ascii banners in bugzilla again.  it isnt constructive and merely adds to the noise.
Comment 11 Alec Warner (RETIRED) archtester gentoo-dev Security 2008-01-13 04:21:34 UTC
Announcements were edited and rewritten in XML format and sent to pr@gentoo.org

-Alec
Comment 12 Aniruddha 2008-01-13 15:33:37 UTC
(In reply to comment #11)
> Announcements were edited and rewritten in XML format and sent to pr@gentoo.org
> 
> -Alec
> 

Is anyone running pr nowadays? 

PR: Well, I'm not the lead here, but since the lead is AWOL, I guess
that I can give my input.  This project is essentially dead.  There are
a couple people who occasionally respond to user queries to the alias,
but otherwise, nothing is going on here.  Nobody is really active.  I
sent in some news about 2007.1 a few weeks back and nobody's posted
anything or even responded.  I'd say the project is dead if we can't
even get out pertinent information like the cancellation of a release to
our users.
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/54138
Comment 13 Aniruddha 2008-01-13 15:34:10 UTC
P.S.
What else can we do to get the message out?
Comment 14 Alec Warner (RETIRED) archtester gentoo-dev Security 2008-01-13 15:56:08 UTC
I live about a mile from one of the members, so I can go annoy her if necessary ;P

But yes I've talked to at least three people, one of which reviewed the news items and said he was fine with them getting posted as long as someone else reviewed them.  I hope for that to happen sometime today.

-Alec
Comment 15 Donnie Berkholz (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2008-01-14 01:18:07 UTC
So far, antarus, astinus and I have been involved with putting something together. I want to get input before we post it from musikc.
Comment 16 Aniruddha 2008-01-14 13:26:02 UTC
(In reply to comment #14)
> I live about a mile from one of the members, so I can go annoy her if necessary
> ;P
> 
> But yes I've talked to at least three people, one of which reviewed the news
> items and said he was fine with them getting posted as long as someone else
> reviewed them.  I hope for that to happen sometime today.
> 
> -Alec
> 

What does it take to get involved with pr? 
Comment 17 Chris Gianelloni (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2008-01-14 19:11:26 UTC
Please don't add me to this stuff.  I've retired from Trustees for a reason and don't want to be involved in any more of this sort of thing.  I feel as if I have given more than my fair share to this particular thing and that it has yielded me nothing, so I'm moving on to other things.

I've added trustees@gentoo.org here since it does involve them, though I think only Grant gets those emails now, anyway.
Comment 18 Aniruddha 2008-01-14 19:27:55 UTC
(In reply to comment #17)
> Please don't add me to this stuff.  I've retired from Trustees for a reason and
> don't want to be involved in any more of this sort of thing.  I feel as if I
> have given more than my fair share to this particular thing and that it has
> yielded me nothing, so I'm moving on to other things.
> 
> I've added trustees@gentoo.org here since it does involve them, though I think
> only Grant gets those emails now, anyway.
> 

Chris, were all involved. From what I understand you do lots and lots for Gentoo. Therefor I think it is important that such an influential figure (and ex council member) voice his opinion about the current situation.

Comment 19 Alec Warner (RETIRED) archtester gentoo-dev Security 2008-01-14 22:49:01 UTC
(In reply to comment #16)
> (In reply to comment #14)
> > I live about a mile from one of the members, so I can go annoy her if necessary
> > ;P
> > 
> > But yes I've talked to at least three people, one of which reviewed the news
> > items and said he was fine with them getting posted as long as someone else
> > reviewed them.  I hope for that to happen sometime today.
> > 
> > -Alec
> > 
> 
> What does it take to get involved with pr? 
> 

No idea; I'm not on PR.  I just thought news items would be a good idea ;)

I got feedback from Chris and Nesyx today (some of my xml was wrong or could use better tags).  Still waiting on review (I can't post news items myself).

-Alec
Comment 20 Chris Gianelloni (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2008-01-14 22:52:01 UTC
No, we're really *not* all involved.  If that were the case, we wouldn't be in this mess, now would we?  *grin*

I don't see where opinion matters much in the case of legal matters.  At any rate, my point was more that I have given my opinion several times and don't really see what positive result would come from me stating it again.  After all, what is important is what the community as a whole, and more specifically, the developers and Foundation members, think about this situation than what a couple individuals think.  This is something that affects everybody, and as such, everybody should be asked about it.

I am staying out of this for lots of reasons, some of them personal, but the main reason that I would like to share is this:

I feel as if I failed as a Gentoo Foundation Trustee.  I had certain ideas for where the Foundation needed to go, and I did not accomplish those ideas nor move in the direction of accomplishing those ideas.  Even without my own ideas in play, I should have done more to accomplish the goals that were decided during my tenure.  Rather, I did what most of us tend to do and simply let things happen.  When someone said that they were working on something, I didn't ask about it.  I simply waited for them to bring it up again.  I was not proactive enough in getting things done and that makes me feel as if I have failed in what I was elected to do for Gentoo.

Now, I hope that you can understand why I really just want to be left alone?

Thanks in advance,

Chris
Comment 21 Alec Warner (RETIRED) archtester gentoo-dev Security 2008-01-15 07:30:39 UTC
These were posted today, thanks to musikc for getting it done ;)

-Alec
Comment 22 Aniruddha 2008-01-15 10:02:14 UTC
Thanks all for the great work! It's good to finally see some fresh news on the Gentoo homepage.

@Chris
Thank you for your honest answer.