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Bug 17859 - System packges need to be re-thought out. No need for ftp and iptables to be in the default system
Summary: System packges need to be re-thought out. No need for ftp and iptables to be...
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Linux
Classification: Unclassified
Component: [OLD] Core system (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: High enhancement (vote)
Assignee: Seemant Kulleen (RETIRED)
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Reported: 2003-03-20 03:41 UTC by Kurt Hindenburg
Modified: 2003-03-27 03:11 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Description Kurt Hindenburg 2003-03-20 03:41:34 UTC
In the system profile, ftp and iptables are list to be installed by default. 
That is an 'emerge world' will ALWAYS show them.  I don't need either of them
and a default system should not require them.  I think the gentoo admins should
rethink what packages are in the system profile (/etc/make.profile/).

Reproducible: Always
Steps to Reproduce:
1. emerge world -up
2.
3.

Actual Results:  
[ebuild  N   ] net-ftp/ftp-0.17-r2  
[ebuild  N   ] net-firewall/iptables-1.2.7a-r3

Expected Results:  
Remove unnecessary packages from the main /etc/make.profile list.
Comment 1 Seemant Kulleen (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-03-20 05:46:55 UTC
leaving this unassigned, because I do happen to agree with you on this; but I would like as many of the developers to have a chance to voice.
Comment 2 Maurizio Disimino 2003-03-20 07:29:54 UTC
agreed, add net-misc/dhcpcd.
Comment 3 Mark Guertin 2003-03-20 11:14:51 UTC
dhcp pretty much has to stay IMHO as does ftp (they really are base system 
tools, if you get into the vein of thought of that why not also remove man, less, 
etc etc.. you dont really need them to run your system either). 
 
iptables however I do agree with, and it has been removed (twice cause 
someone put it back) from the ppc sytem for a long time. 
Comment 4 Thomas Raschbacher gentoo-dev 2003-03-24 14:08:08 UTC
i'd say remove iptables but keep ftp (for the moment)
Comment 5 Martin Schlemmer (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-03-24 14:37:01 UTC
Ditto here.  Not all systems need iptables, but ftp is really one of the most
basic packages.  It is not even 75kb on my system, and I will look scew at any
system's admin if I had to work there and it did not have it installed.
Comment 6 Seemant Kulleen (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-03-25 19:02:57 UTC
ok, I will remove iptables from the system profiles
Comment 7 Seemant Kulleen (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2003-03-27 03:11:26 UTC
removed iptables.