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Bug 174417 - PMS is about PMS
Summary: PMS is about PMS
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Hosted Projects
Classification: Unclassified
Component: PMS/EAPI (show other bugs)
Hardware: All All
: High enhancement (vote)
Assignee: PMS/EAPI
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Reported: 2007-04-13 10:06 UTC by SpanKY
Modified: 2008-04-13 15:50 UTC (History)
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Description SpanKY gentoo-dev 2007-04-13 10:06:57 UTC
the front page should emphasize the PMS, not any one person that was involved ... displaying names on the front page generally conveys ownership

the PMS should be like every other Gentoo doc out there ... emphasis is on the content, not the people behind it

authors/contributers/etc... should all be listed in the same place: page ~8 for acknowledgments
Comment 1 Ciaran McCreesh 2007-04-13 14:41:14 UTC
Then find us a LaTeX document class that does that.
Comment 2 Danny van Dyk (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-04-30 19:04:31 UTC
(In reply to comment #0)
> the front page should emphasize the PMS, not any one person that was involved
> ... displaying names on the front page generally conveys ownership
> 
> the PMS should be like every other Gentoo doc out there ... emphasis is on the
> content, not the people behind it

Well, I do not disagree with you in general, but have a look at _printable_ gentoo documents, e.g.:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml?style=printable

They show (as any print that respects international printing conventions) the authors right after the title. Besides, the PMS authors didn't choose to put
their names in this position. It's rather that LaTeX does it automatically. If we were to change that, we'd need to either use a (non-standard) CTAN documentclass that moves the authors around (and I don't know any that does this) or maintain our own documentclass and ship it with PMS's source.

I for one wouldn't like to chose either of these options. However, I'm not sure
I have considered all of them.
Comment 3 SpanKY gentoo-dev 2007-04-30 19:34:51 UTC
why dont you pick a document that is representable:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/hardened/pic-fix-guide.xml?style=printable

authors/contributors are all listed together
Comment 4 Ciaran McCreesh 2007-04-30 19:38:56 UTC
Find us an appropriate documentclass that doesn't involve changing anything else and we'll use it. Or better yet, focus on bugs that aren't arbitrary and pointless.
Comment 5 SpanKY gentoo-dev 2007-04-30 19:50:27 UTC
i'm replying to Danny, not you ... nowhere did i say "focus on this"
Comment 6 Ciaran McCreesh 2008-03-19 15:38:33 UTC
Please reopen if you have a sane patch.
Comment 7 SpanKY gentoo-dev 2008-03-20 11:01:02 UTC
closing bugs doesnt make the problem magically disappear
Comment 8 Ciaran McCreesh 2008-03-20 11:32:15 UTC
There isn't a problem. If you come up with a nicer documentclass for latex, we'll use it, but the way it's formatted now is fine.
Comment 9 SpanKY gentoo-dev 2008-03-20 18:44:10 UTC
if you dont like seeing this bug in your list, then fix it.  otherwise, leave it alone.
Comment 10 Stephen Bennett (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2008-03-20 18:47:46 UTC
If you want to see this changed, come up with a concrete suggestion for what would be better than the current state, including a latex documentclass to do it. Until then it's fine as it is.
Comment 11 Mark Loeser (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2008-03-20 18:51:03 UTC
Please leave this bug closed.  We aren't going to keep our own document class around just for this one really minor "problem".  If someone can find something that does it, then please reopen it, but until then, there is nothing we can do about it.
Comment 12 SpanKY gentoo-dev 2008-03-20 19:38:46 UTC
bugzilla is track open issues ... the issue isnt closed, so the bug isnt closed
Comment 13 Mark Loeser (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2008-03-20 19:47:28 UTC
Mike, and none of us are going to fix it nor do we know of a latex stylesheet that can do it.

As such...WONTFIX  (unless you can provide a fix)
Comment 14 Björn Michaelsen 2008-04-13 10:10:44 UTC
(In reply to comment #13)
> Mike, and none of us are going to fix it nor do we know of a latex stylesheet
> that can do it.
> 
> As such...WONTFIX  (unless you can provide a fix)
> 

setting \author{} and pdfauthor does this. No magic stylesheet needed for that. However PMS and its copyright might better be contributed to the Gentoo Foundation, while still acknowledging the original authors - but thats a different issue.

Anyway stating "There is no way to get the title changed in latex" is just hilarious.
Comment 15 Ciaran McCreesh 2008-04-13 15:50:30 UTC
No-one said there's no way. We said there's no sensible way that we know of. If you know of such a way, attach a patch.