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Bug 170679 - handbook should make it obvious merging coldplug is normally not needed
Summary: handbook should make it obvious merging coldplug is normally not needed
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: [OLD] Docs on www.gentoo.org
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Installation Handbook (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: High normal (vote)
Assignee: nm (RETIRED)
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Reported: 2007-03-13 00:05 UTC by Marien Zwart (RETIRED)
Modified: 2007-03-13 00:43 UTC (History)
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Description Marien Zwart (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-03-13 00:05:51 UTC
The handbook currently tells you (under "7.d. Alternative: Using genkernel") to emerge coldplug if using genkernel, then has a bit of text explaining this is not needed if you have udev >= 103. Since udev 104 is stable on everything but mips it might be a good idea to change the wording here or drop the section entirely since it is unnecessary for the majority of users (just helped a rather confused user who was trying to get past the block there without reading past the merge instructions).

Hope you don't mind a bug for such a tiny change :)
Comment 1 nm (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-03-13 00:08:19 UTC
You should have read all the handbooks more carefully, marien.:

"Note: You no longer need to emerge coldplug if you're using udev version 103 and higher. If you receive a message that udev blocks coldplug from being installed, then you don't need to install coldplug."

This warning is repeated in every handbook and every doc that deals with udev, coldplug, and that whole functionality. I added it myself. :)
Comment 2 Jan Kundrát (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-03-13 00:10:41 UTC
Given the number of bugs we've already received and amount of confused users, let's make the instructions clear and not confusing.
Comment 3 nm (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-03-13 00:10:57 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> You should have read all the handbooks more carefully, marien.:
> 
> "Note: You no longer need to emerge coldplug if you're using udev version 103
> and higher. If you receive a message that udev blocks coldplug from being
> installed, then you don't need to install coldplug."
> 
> This warning is repeated in every handbook and every doc that deals with udev,
> coldplug, and that whole functionality. I added it myself. :)
> 

Forgot to mention that I prefer to keep it in, as most user problems I've seen in the forums actually do refer to that bit -- the problem doesn't seem to be that it exists, but that they don't read the handbook and/or are reading outdated handbooks.
Comment 4 nm (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-03-13 00:43:11 UTC
Right, sorry for the confusion.

Fixx0r3d in CVS. Removed coldplug from all docs. All hail the udev-only era, for as long as it lasts. Don't like udev? Complain to Greg KH. udev is The Gentoo Way(tm).