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Bug 166809 - bugzilla is not a place for 0day ricing, please document it
Summary: bugzilla is not a place for 0day ricing, please document it
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: [OLD] Docs on www.gentoo.org
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Other documents (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Linux
: High normal (vote)
Assignee: Bugzilla Admins
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Reported: 2007-02-14 11:07 UTC by Jakub Moc (RETIRED)
Modified: 2007-09-01 10:43 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Description Jakub Moc (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-02-14 11:07:37 UTC
Dear docs team, I'm tired of 0day bugs, maintainers are tired of 0day bugs. It's annoying, wastes everyone's time and doesn't help. Games project has a nice section [1] on this issue in their project docs. Please, copy it over to a more generic place, maybe [2] or anywhere else where you consider it to have most chance to hit a proper audience.

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/games/index.xml#doc_chap5_sect5
[2] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=2&chap=3

@bugzilla - please, consider noting the same on bug submission pages (both guided and expert ones) or maybe directly at bugzilla homepage.

Thanks everyone.
Comment 1 nm (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-02-14 11:25:35 UTC
(In reply to comment #0)
> Dear docs team, I'm tired of 0day bugs, maintainers are tired of 0day bugs.
> It's annoying, wastes everyone's time and doesn't help. Games project has a
> nice section [1] on this issue in their project docs. Please, copy it over to a
> more generic place, maybe [2] or anywhere else where you consider it to have
> most chance to hit a proper audience.
> 
> [1] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/games/index.xml#doc_chap5_sect5
> [2] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=2&chap=3
> 
> @bugzilla - please, consider noting the same on bug submission pages (both
> guided and expert ones) or maybe directly at bugzilla homepage.
> 
> Thanks everyone.
> 

This really, really reads like you're taking your frustrations out on the docs team, just so you know -- I'll give you the benefit of the doubt in this case. If it is indeed a serious request, can you provide a specific bug or bugs that led to this request? Seems like something happened to make you snap.

Note that if you want this info placed at [2], you should reassign to devrel@, since documents in /proj/ are managed by those specific projects. That being said, I think I can find a place for it in our bugzilla howto; a <section> at the end of chapter 6 (http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/bugzilla-howto.xml#doc_chap6) on 0-day bump requests would be most appropriate there.

GDP: anyone disagree with the request and/or location?
Comment 2 Jakub Moc (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-02-14 11:32:06 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> This really, really reads like you're taking your frustrations out on the docs
> team, just so you know -- I'll give you the benefit of the doubt in this case.

Oh, *absolutely* not... 

> If it is indeed a serious request, can you provide a specific bug or bugs that
> led to this request? Seems like something happened to make you snap.

It's a long-term issue, Bug 166040 was the last example, 
see  http://tinyurl.com/2kgo64 for a couple of other examples. I've even raised this issue on -dev mailing list before, requesting some sort of policy to get 
these automatically closed as INVALID, only to get yelled at by people. 

So, this is an attempt to reduce the useless annoying noise by properly documenting the issue.
Comment 3 Jakub Moc (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-02-14 11:41:48 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> Note that if you want this info placed at [2], you should reassign to devrel@,

The more places this hits, the higher chance someone will actually notice. CCing devrel as well, the end of 3.b sections seems like a good place to note this as well. 

> I think I can find a place for it in our bugzilla howto; a <section> at
> the end of chapter 6
> (http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/bugzilla-howto.xml#doc_chap6) on 0-day bump
> requests would be most appropriate there.

A good one, yeah.
Comment 4 Jan Kundrát (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-02-14 13:05:00 UTC
(In reply to comment #1)
> GDP: anyone disagree with the request and/or location?

Both are fine with me. Adding a bit fat warning to the Bugzilla itself will stop most of those requests, at least I hope so.
Comment 5 nm (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-02-14 21:31:13 UTC
Fixed in CVS on the docs-team end. Added to the bugzilla guide. If any other project wants to add this info to their docs, please reopen and reassign to yourself.
Comment 6 Jan Kundrát (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-02-15 01:30:23 UTC
Can't re-assign without reopening, sorry for noise...