Hi, my forums account was banned, I haven't received a mail explaining why, and obviously it's a bit hard to check the forums.
It was banned under the impression it is either - ciaranm evading a ban or - someone trying hard to make people believe ciaranm is evading his ban judging from username (TheTroll), avatar (a troll), signature, posting style, date of creation, etc. While the first is a clear reason for a ban, the second can quite easily be seen as a severe violation of the forum rules too. Perhaps you can explain the reasoning behind this - if your account was created in good faith the account probably was banned in error.
(In reply to comment #1) > It was banned under the impression it is either > - ciaranm evading a ban or I suspect you are flattering forums.gentoo.org if you are really suggesting ciaranm would go to that much trouble. > - someone trying hard to make people believe ciaranm is evading his ban judging > from username (TheTroll), avatar (a troll), signature, posting style, date of > creation, etc. Well, I think you're confusing your trolls here. My avatar is of a mythical creature called a troll, my signature comes from a children's story, The Three Billy Goats Gruff. My username was chosen when I discovered that I didn't already have a forums account, and I'd seen someone post the name TheTroll as if it was a real user in a thread. I did decide to start posting after ciaranm was banned, because once it became obvious that the forum mods weren't going to put their toys back in their prams, I wanted to be able to comment on paludis threads. Perhaps you might infer from the username "TheTroll" that the account was for "trolling", but it would be bit obvious for proper trolling don't you think? > While the first is a clear reason for a ban The first obviously isn't true, I've checked and I'm definitely not ciaranm. > the second can quite easily be > seen as a severe violation of the forum rules too. You suggest the ban was for "trying hard to make people believe ciaranm is evading his ban" not only was I not trying hard, I wasn't trying at all. The purpose of my account was contribute to paludis discussions on forums.gentoo.org. Are you intending to ban any new forums account that talks about paludis? Or just ones that idiots might think were ciaranm? Also, are you banning so many accounts that you're unable to do people the courtesy of explaining why they were banned? It seems a bit rude to go to forums.gentoo.org and be told you're banned without any explanation of what rules you might have broken.
> My avatar is of a mythical > creature called a troll, my signature comes from a children's story [..] The point is that ciaranm had a troll as avatar, too. Pure coincidence? > My username was chosen when I discovered that I didn't > already have a forums account, and I'd seen someone post the name TheTroll as > if it was a real user in a thread. Care to link that certain post? I suppose it didn't have to do anything at all with ciaranm, did it? > I did decide to start posting after ciaranm > was banned, because once it became obvious that the forum mods weren't going to > put their toys back in their prams So, you started to post because of mods not putting their toys in their prams. > Perhaps you might infer from the username "TheTroll" that the account > was for "trolling", but it would be bit obvious for proper trolling don't you > think? Not really. Sometimes people like to see how far they can push it. > You suggest the ban was for "trying hard to make people believe ciaranm is > evading his ban" not only was I not trying hard, I wasn't trying at all. Yet you started posting with it shortly after the "the admins weren't going to put their toys back into the prams" with a similar avatar and a username somehow related to a discussion about him? > Are you intending to ban any new forums account that talks > about paludis? No > Or just ones that idiots might think were ciaranm? Are you implying everyone who thinks your forums account could be ciaranm is an idiot? > Also, are you banning so many accounts that you're unable to do people the > courtesy of explaining why they were banned? Yes, it's quite a lot - we get a lot of spam and otherwise useless accounts every day. > It seems a bit rude to go to > forums.gentoo.org and be told you're banned without any explanation of what > rules you might have broken. The banned message actually tells you "You have been banned from this forum. Please contact the webmaster or board administrator for more information." For me the question from #1 still stands: Was your account created in good faith, or wasn't it?
(In reply to comment #3) > > My avatar is of a mythical > > creature called a troll, my signature comes from a children's story [..] > > The point is that ciaranm had a troll as avatar, too. Pure coincidence? Yes, I thought ciaranm's avatar was his photo, and having now seen his avatar, if that is a troll it's the worst picture of a troll I have ever seen. > > My username was chosen when I discovered that I didn't > > already have a forums account, and I'd seen someone post the name TheTroll as > > if it was a real user in a thread. > > Care to link that certain post? I suppose it didn't have to do anything at all > with ciaranm, did it? Now that you mention it I do believe it was, I would like to link it but searching for TheTroll doesn't even return all of my posts. I guess the posts are in forums that aren't searched? > > I did decide to start posting after ciaranm > > was banned, because once it became obvious that the forum mods weren't going to > > put their toys back in their prams > > So, you started to post because of mods not putting their toys in their prams. Indirectly, yes; directly, I started to post because ciaranm couldn't. I'm pleased you've admitted ciaranm's banning was the forum mods throwing their toys of their prams, perhaps this means they'll be un-banning him in the near future? > > Perhaps you might infer from the username "TheTroll" that the account > > was for "trolling", but it would be bit obvious for proper trolling don't you > > think? > > Not really. Sometimes people like to see how far they can push it. And sometimes people just choose a name that they like. If I was called TheCatBurglar would you infer that I actually was a cat burglar? > > You suggest the ban was for "trying hard to make people believe ciaranm is > > evading his ban" not only was I not trying hard, I wasn't trying at all. > > Yet you started posting with it shortly after the "the admins weren't going to > put their toys back into the prams" with a similar avatar and a username > somehow related to a discussion about him? No, I started it after ciaranm was stopped from posting, to help people using paludis. I didn't feel I had anything worth posting while ciaranm was still active. > > Or just ones that idiots might think were ciaranm? > > Are you implying everyone who thinks your forums account could be ciaranm is an > idiot? Are you implying that statement is unclear? I will admit, at the time I made it, I was unaware of the additional damning evidence that I'd copied his avatar. > The banned message actually tells you > "You have been banned from this forum. Please contact the webmaster or board > administrator for more information." Well I suppose I did manage to do that or we wouldn't be having this charming little t
(In reply to comment #3) > > My avatar is of a mythical > > creature called a troll, my signature comes from a children's story [..] > > The point is that ciaranm had a troll as avatar, too. Pure coincidence? Yes, I thought ciaranm's avatar was his photo, and having now seen his avatar, if that is a troll it's the worst picture of a troll I have ever seen. > > My username was chosen when I discovered that I didn't > > already have a forums account, and I'd seen someone post the name TheTroll as > > if it was a real user in a thread. > > Care to link that certain post? I suppose it didn't have to do anything at all > with ciaranm, did it? Now that you mention it I do believe it was, I would like to link it but searching for TheTroll doesn't even return all of my posts. I guess the posts are in forums that aren't searched? > > I did decide to start posting after ciaranm > > was banned, because once it became obvious that the forum mods weren't going to > > put their toys back in their prams > > So, you started to post because of mods not putting their toys in their prams. Indirectly, yes; directly, I started to post because ciaranm couldn't. I'm pleased you've admitted ciaranm's banning was the forum mods throwing their toys of their prams, perhaps this means they'll be un-banning him in the near future? > > Perhaps you might infer from the username "TheTroll" that the account > > was for "trolling", but it would be bit obvious for proper trolling don't you > > think? > > Not really. Sometimes people like to see how far they can push it. And sometimes people just choose a name that they like. If I was called TheCatBurglar would you infer that I actually was a cat burglar? > > You suggest the ban was for "trying hard to make people believe ciaranm is > > evading his ban" not only was I not trying hard, I wasn't trying at all. > > Yet you started posting with it shortly after the "the admins weren't going to > put their toys back into the prams" with a similar avatar and a username > somehow related to a discussion about him? No, I started it after ciaranm was stopped from posting, to help people using paludis. I didn't feel I had anything worth posting while ciaranm was still active. > > Or just ones that idiots might think were ciaranm? > > Are you implying everyone who thinks your forums account could be ciaranm is an > idiot? Are you implying that statement is unclear? I will admit, at the time I made it, I was unaware of the additional damning evidence that I'd copied his avatar. > The banned message actually tells you > "You have been banned from this forum. Please contact the webmaster or board > administrator for more information." Well I suppose I did manage to do that or we wouldn't be having this charming little tête-à-tête. > For me the question from #1 still stands: > Was your account created in good faith, or wasn't it? To answer your question in this comment, the forums account TheTroll was indeed created in "good faith", with the purpose of helping paludis users, and it didn't occur to me that some members of the forums could be so very easily confused. > While the first is a clear reason for a ban, the second can quite easily be > seen as a severe violation of the forum rules too. That would imply that even if the account wasn't created in good faith, it is still not a severe violation of the forum rules, only that some might easily see it so. I don't think it should have been banned because someone didn't look hard enough. Please remove the ban on this account.
(In reply to comment #4) > (In reply to comment #3) > Now that you mention it I do believe it was, I would like to link it but > searching for TheTroll doesn't even return all of my posts. I guess the posts > are in forums that aren't searched? Funny coincidence, stuff just magically not being there now ;) > No, I started it after ciaranm was stopped from posting, to help people using > paludis. I didn't feel I had anything worth posting while ciaranm was still > active. Another funny coincidence, ciaranm gets banned, your account is created :-) > > Are you implying everyone who thinks your forums account [snip] > > Are you implying that statement is unclear? I will admit, at the time I made > it, I was unaware of the additional damning evidence that I'd copied his > avatar. Wow, the way you argue ... its just like Ciaran ... how interesting..... > Please remove the ban on this account. Well at least you asked nicely, even if it was after a long and time-wasting post to Bugzilla; if you're not Ciaran, are you his identical twin?
amne, astinus doesn't appear to have forums listed under his areas of responsibility in the roll call, but he is a gentoo dev. While he seems interested in the banning of TheTroll, it appears that even simple concepts confuse him. Do you feel it would be appropriate to rephrase my earlier comments so that astinus can understand them, perhaps by only using words of one or fewer syllables, or is he just spamming this bug?
Wow, trolling while asking for his account back in bugzilla... Of course, it just shows us that our first decision was correct and that you should be kept out of the forums. Amne, what do you think would be the best resolution? FIXED, INVALID, WONTFIX, or CANTFIX? Maybe as a dup of ciaranm's bug?
(In reply to comment #6) > amne, astinus doesn't appear to have forums listed under his areas of > responsibility in the roll call, but he is a gentoo dev. Well that'd be because I'm not involved with Gentoo Forum; gee, aren't you smart! > While he seems interested in the banning of TheTroll, it appears that even > simple concepts confuse him. Do you feel it would be appropriate to rephrase my > earlier comments so that astinus can understand them, perhaps by only using > words of one or fewer syllables, or is he just spamming this bug? I felt like commenting *shrug* No harm in that I'm afraid. You're right when you lightly suggest this isn't my problem, but I wanted to show a bit of support for your "never unban this account" campaign ;) Trollish, abusive or unhelpful replies to stuff on bugs.gentoo.org was a genius move! @ Mauricio: I'd probably close as WONTFIX, since there's no way to influence the poor attitude of certain people; at least, not without a hammer or electricity.
(In reply to comment #7) > Wow, trolling while asking for his account back in bugzilla... It's quite easy to call something you disagree with "trolling." > Of course, it > just shows us that our first decision was correct and that you should be kept > out of the forums. Amne, what do you think would be the best resolution? FIXED, > INVALID, WONTFIX, or CANTFIX? Maybe as a dup of ciaranm's bug? I salute your logical facilities; you accept I haven't been "trolling" with my forums account, but because you feel I've "trolled" you on bugzilla you think my forums account should be banned? Is it really too much to ask that you think before you post? As a forums mod you should be setting an example to the rest of the gentoo community. As a gentoo user, I'm beginning to feel a little insulted.
(In reply to comment #9) > It's quite easy to call something you disagree with "trolling." And of course, it's easy to disagree when you are the one trolling. > I salute your logical facilities; you accept I haven't been "trolling" with my > forums account, but because you feel I've "trolled" you on bugzilla you think > my forums account should be banned? Is it really too much to ask that you think > before you post? As a forums mod you should be setting an example to the rest > of the gentoo community. As a gentoo user, I'm beginning to feel a little > insulted. > I never said you weren't trolling in the forums, I just stated that you were trolling here as well. I don't see why we should go any further with this. You're insulting developers and staff saying that they don't think or that they're too stupid to understand your beautiful comments. Your trolling skills won't get your account back. If you need a place to support your paludis software, why don't you provide your own forum?
> > Now that you mention it I do believe it was, I would like to link it but > > searching for TheTroll doesn't even return all of my posts. I guess the posts > > are in forums that aren't searched? > > Funny coincidence, stuff just magically not being there now ;) Noone's deleted any of your posts. You made three posts on the 13th and then one on the 18th. > > > No, I started it after ciaranm was stopped from posting, to help people using > > paludis. I didn't feel I had anything worth posting while ciaranm was still > > active. > > Another funny coincidence, ciaranm gets banned, your account is created :-) > Actually, the funny coincidence is that ciaranm was referred to as "The Troll" by another forums user the day before the account "TheTroll" was created. It's also interesting to see you claim that you registered to give support to paludis users, yet only one of your posts is in response to a paludis user seeking help.
> Comment #8, Bug #158523: > @ Mauricio: I'd probably close as WONTFIX, since there's no way to influence > the poor attitude of certain people; at least, not without a hammer or > electricity. > Initial Post, Bug #158631: > astinus appears to be suggesting that I have my behaviour modified, either by a > hammer or electrocution. While I accept that he probably doesn't mean it > literally, I'm concerned that a member of developer relations would make such a > comment, in any context, to a gentoo user. I retract my statement about hammers and electricity and apologise for any offence it may have caused, my statement was not aimed at this troll in particular, nor was it meant literally; I was simply expressing my view that attitudes of people often take years to change and mature, and that is precisely why some people are banned (temporarily or otherwise) from Forums, IRC, etc. I didn't make the statement above as a member of Developer Relations either, about 99% of my comments on bugs.gentoo.org are **personal** opinions - they shouldn't be misconstrued as the opinion of any herd to which I belong.
(In reply to comment #5) > > > Are you implying everyone who thinks your forums account [snip] > > > > Are you implying that statement is unclear? I will admit, at the time I made > > it, I was unaware of the additional damning evidence that I'd copied his > > avatar. > Wow, the way you argue ... its just like Ciaran ... how interesting..... > > Please remove the ban on this account. > Well at least you asked nicely, even if it was after a long and time-wasting > post to Bugzilla; if you're not Ciaran, are you his identical twin? I have to agree with everyone that if you aren't ciaranm, you must be his twin brother. Your style is really "unique". By the way, your attack against the mods, your name calling to other users, your comtempt for the forums, your trolling on this bug and even your use of bugzilla for this instead of the forum-mods@ alias, are all strong arguments for me that you are ciaranm or his twin. (In reply to comment #7) > Wow, trolling while asking for his account back in bugzilla... Of course, it > just shows us that our first decision was correct and that you should be kept > out of the forums. Amne, what do you think would be the best resolution? FIXED, > INVALID, WONTFIX, or CANTFIX? Maybe as a dup of ciaranm's bug? > I suggest WONTFIX.
(In reply to comment #13) > I have to agree with everyone that if you aren't ciaranm, you must be his twin > brother. Your style is really "unique". > By the way, your attack against the mods, your name calling to other users, > your comtempt for the forums, your trolling on this bug and even your use of > bugzilla for this instead of the forum-mods@ alias, are all strong arguments > for me that you are ciaranm or his twin. He's not. Enough with the conspiracy theories already. Since when was behaviour on bugzilla, or agreeing with someone who's banned, grounds for a ban from the forums?
> I don't see why we should go any further with this. You're insulting developers > and staff saying that they don't think or that they're too stupid to understand > your beautiful comments. Your trolling skills won't get your account back. I think there was a compliment in there, so thank you. > If you need a place to support your paludis software, why don't you provide > your own forum? Do you really want to start the it's in gentoo-x86 it's supported, it's not portage so it's not the supported package manager argument again? After everyone agreed to disagree and shut up about it? I almost wish this was a troll, as it looks like it would have been a moderately successful one. I completely disagree with your decision to mark this as WONTFIX, on the grounds that you're using what you consider to be my bad behaviour outside the forums as the grounds for banning me from them, but I suspect it would be easier to convince two short planks than you. Also, is the ban specifically for the account TheTroll, or is it against me personally and any account that I might create?
If you'd bothered to read the forums guidelines you would have known that evading a ban is grounds for banning new accounts. If you have a problem with being banned, the proper procedure is to email forum-mods@g.o, not to create a bug here. Thus, INVALID would perhaps had been a better resolution as this is not about a bug in the forums code or an enhancement request.
(In reply to comment #15) > I think there was a compliment in there, so thank you. I'd say "you are welcome" if it couldn't have two different meanings. > Do you really want to start the it's in gentoo-x86 it's supported, it's not > portage so it's not the supported package manager argument again? After > everyone agreed to disagree and shut up about it? Not really, it can be supported in the forums, but as some paludis developers present a tendency to get banned, you might benefit of a forum over your own control. > I almost wish this was a troll, as it looks like it would have been a > moderately successful one. Coming from you, that must be a compliment too. > I completely disagree with your decision to mark this as WONTFIX, on the > grounds that you're using what you consider to be my bad behaviour outside the > forums as the grounds for banning me from them, but I suspect it would be > easier to convince two short planks than you. Probably true. But I can change it to INVALID if it makes you happy.
(In reply to comment #16) > If you'd bothered to read the forums guidelines you would have known that > evading a ban is grounds for banning new accounts. Yes, but it's not automatic is it? Perhaps you might like to read the forum guidelines yourself, try saying each word out loud as you read it and maybe you'll get a better grasp of their meaning. # Multiple accounts - Each person should have only one account. If you get banned for some reason and simply create another account, it might get banned the minute the moderators become aware of it. "simply create another account, it might get banned" I fail to see how that equals "create more than one account and it will get banned." It fairly obviously acknowledges that there are circumstances in which a ban may not be enforced on a person, just on an account. I am not "simply" creating another account, am I? I'm asking if, given that TheTroll has been banned, would I get banned, were I to create another forums account, perhaps one that even you would not confuse with the dreaded ciaranm? And if so, why? > If you have a problem with > being banned, the proper procedure is to email forum-mods@g.o, not to create a > bug here. Then your procedure is wrong, inappropriate bans are something that should be discussed in public, not on an email alias.
(In reply to comment #17) > > I almost wish this was a troll, as it looks like it would have been a > > moderately successful one. > > Coming from you, that must be a compliment too. No, it would mean you got trolled. Which you didn't. > Probably true. But I can change it to INVALID if it makes you happy. If you want to make me happy just un-ban me and apologise for the misunderstanding that lead to me being banned in the first place. I'm fairly sure forums mods have better things to do than checking every account that they believe to be a dupe, but I think I've clearly stated that TheTroll is neither ciarnam or an account specifically designed to make people believe that it was ciaranm. If you like, I could add, I am not ciaranm to my sig and link to this bug. Almost every person who isn't me who has commented on this bug has accused me of being ciaranm , and I'm beginning to think that I've received a forums ban for the crime of being similar to ciaranm. The forum guidelines don't mention that as being a ban-able offence.
(In reply to comment #18) > (In reply to comment #16) > > If you'd bothered to read the forums guidelines you would have known that > > evading a ban is grounds for banning new accounts. > > Yes, but it's not automatic is it? Perhaps you might like to read the forum > guidelines yourself, try saying each word out loud as you read it and maybe > you'll get a better grasp of their meaning. Seriously, stop these silly games of alluding things left and right. It's not helping your cause. > # Multiple accounts - Each person should have only one account. If you get > banned for some reason and simply create another account, it might get banned > the minute the moderators become aware of it. > > "simply create another account, it might get banned" I fail to see how that > equals "create more than one account and it will get banned." It fairly > obviously acknowledges that there are circumstances in which a ban may not be > enforced on a person, just on an account. I am not "simply" creating another > account, am I? I'm asking if, given that TheTroll has been banned, would I get > banned, were I to create another forums account, perhaps one that even you > would not confuse with the dreaded ciaranm? And if so, why? I've never said I thought you were ciaranm even though I have questioned your creating the account solely in good faith to help paludis users (see comment 11). As for new accounts, it all depends on what caused the ban in the first place and whether the creation of a new account is something that we have allowed in advance or whether it's something that we don't see a reason to pursue further. Personally, I'm more interested in the behaviour than the person, which should shed some light on how I see on second accounts. Often, an apology and an assurance that further infractions of policy will not occur is enough to get unbanned or be allowed to create a new account. > > If you have a problem with > > being banned, the proper procedure is to email forum-mods@g.o, not to create a > > bug here. > > Then your procedure is wrong, inappropriate bans are something that should be > discussed in public, not on an email alias. These procedures have worked wonderfully well for everyone but you. Most of us hang out in #gentoo-forums @ freenode if you want a public place to discuss this issue.
Richard Brown is most definitely not me. *I* know how to use C++ pointer to member types in templates properly. Now, much as you'd like to think to the contrary, there are an awful lot of people out there that agree with me, and silently banning forums accounts merely for doing so is massively in violation of everything you are supposed to be doing for Gentoo. I'd also like to point out that being able to write coherently and with a certain degree of class is not a talent unique to myself. Indeed, many Paludis users and developers possess that very skill. Adding userrel to the Cc: since the forum mods clearly aren't capable of resolving this without outside intervention.
(In reply to comment #20) > (In reply to comment #18) > > (In reply to comment #16) > > > If you'd bothered to read the forums guidelines you would have known that > > > evading a ban is grounds for banning new accounts. > > > > Yes, but it's not automatic is it? Perhaps you might like to read the forum > > guidelines yourself, try saying each word out loud as you read it and maybe > > you'll get a better grasp of their meaning. > > Seriously, stop these silly games of alluding things left and right. It's not > helping your cause. I don't have "cause," I just want my account unbanned, or a forums mod to state that it is only TheTroll that is banned, not me. Please don't accuse me of playing silly games if you're going to tell me to read something you yourself haven't read properly. > I've never said I thought you were ciaranm even though I have questioned your > creating the account solely in good faith to help paludis users (see comment > 11). I said almost all the commenter's who weren't me, congratulations on being the almost. Sorry I never replied to comment #11, I've replied to it at the end of this comment. > > I am not "simply" creating another > > account, am I? I'm asking if, given that TheTroll has been banned, would I get > > banned, were I to create another forums account, perhaps one that even you > > would not confuse with the dreaded ciaranm? And if so, why? > > As for new accounts, it all depends on what caused the ban in the first place > and whether the creation of a new account is something that we have allowed in > advance or whether it's something that we don't see a reason to pursue further. > Personally, I'm more interested in the behaviour than the person, which should > shed some light on how I see on second accounts. Often, an apology and an > assurance that further infractions of policy will not occur is enough to get > unbanned or be allowed to create a new account. Thank you for almost answering the question I asked two comments ago. It would have been nice if you could have answered in your previous post, instead of just trying to insult me. If I have accidentally broken the forum guidelines, then I wouldn't have a problem apologising and moving on, but 20 odd comments into this bug, that still hasn't been established, At the start of this bug, amne asked if TheTroll was ciaranm evading his ban, or if TheTroll was trying hard to make people think that he was. I stated quite clearly that TheTroll was neither of these. amne hasn't yet responded, but in that time two gentoo devs, and three forums mods have felt it necessary to comment on this bug, and with the exception of you, all the comments seem to be about whether I am ciaranm or his evil identical twin, and the discussion hasn't progressed in over a day. Pilla has even closed the bug as WONTFIX, and left like that, while apparently accepting that TheTroll had done nothing wrong. > These procedures have worked wonderfully well for everyone but you. Most of us > hang out in #gentoo-forums @ freenode if you want a public place to discuss > this issue. IRC doesn't keep a history of who said what, and when, bugzilla does. Beside that, I've been using gentoo a long time, using bugzilla is pretty much an automatic response for me. Posting on bugzilla was working wonderfully well for me, with amne asking questions and me answering them, until the world and his dog decided to barge in. If it wasn't for the general inability of the gentoo community to talk in a civilised manner without resorting to name calling and petty insults, this bug would still be working well. (In reply to comment #11) > > > Now that you mention it I do believe it was, I would like to link it but > > > searching for TheTroll doesn't even return all of my posts. I guess the posts > > > are in forums that aren't searched? > > > > Funny coincidence, stuff just magically not being there now ;) > > Noone's deleted any of your posts. You made three posts on the 13th and then > one on the 18th. I didn't accuse anyone of deleting posts by TheTroll, I said I couldn't find them using the search, and being banned means I can't access TheTroll's posting history. That said, I'm sure I posted on this thread http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-524269.html the night before I got banned, but as it was late at night I'm willing to accept that maybe I didn't, or perhaps the post was moved. > Actually, the funny coincidence is that ciaranm was referred to as "The Troll" > by another forums user the day before the account "TheTroll" was created. amne said the same thing in his second post, I replied to him in mine. > It's also interesting to see you claim that you registered to give support to > paludis users, yet only one of your posts is in response to a paludis user > seeking help. If that was my rate then I guess I wasn't succeeding very well, does failing to achieve a target you've set yourself qualify you for a ban? Does having a specific area of interest preclude you posting on anything else? Are you suggesting that I should have created a second forums account for posting on anything not paludis user related? Because the forum guidelines seem to say that one account per person pretty clearly.
Could we please reset this discussion to Comment #4? Clearly from Comment 1, this whole thing got started when someone thought Richard was Ciaran or trying to act like Ciaran. As best as I can tell, no one believes that now. While Richard's behavior might not be perfect, neither is orher people's, and anyone can see why Richard might be upset. Rather than going back and forth on this, wouldn't it be easier to erase some of the unfortunate comments on both sides of the issue and take it from Comment 4?
I discussed this issue a bit on the alias, we will try to have a result over the next three days (pending something crazy like CHRISTMAS in which case it may be a bit longer.) Thanks, -Alec Warner Gentoo User Relations.
After inquiries on the userrel alias no one appeared to disagree with the forum mods with a strong enough conviction to warrant overturning their decision. As such, the forum mods decision will not be contested by User Relations.
Then userrel should at least provide an explanation of why the account was banned, since the forum mods seem incapable of doing so.
Bugspam++
Reclosing as INVALID. Rbrown, please contact us on the alias or on IRC, #gentoo-forums @ freenode, if you want to discuss the status of your account.
fmccor asked me to add a comment to say this has been relatively amicably resolved in IRC between kallamej and myself, although I haven't felt the need to post again yet. Thanks to fmccor.
