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Bug 138479 - archives.gentoo.org does not list gentoo.council and is slow
Summary: archives.gentoo.org does not list gentoo.council and is slow
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: Gentoo Infrastructure
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Other web server issues (show other bugs)
Hardware: All Other
: High normal (vote)
Assignee: Trevor Hardcastle
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Reported: 2006-06-29 07:40 UTC by Stefan Schweizer (RETIRED)
Modified: 2007-09-07 07:08 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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Description Stefan Schweizer (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2006-06-29 07:40:55 UTC
gmane.linux.gentoo.council is accessible, whereas on archives.gentoo.org I cannot find the gentoo-council mailing list archives.

Another point for archives.gentoo.org is that I canot read the mail from a few minutes or hours ago - it seems to be old, can that be fixed, please?

Oh and maybe it is possible to make that available as a news server similar to gmane because for example in gmane I cannot post to gentoo.council and I dont like to fire up my email client for such a thing.
Comment 1 Lance Albertson (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2006-06-29 08:22:59 UTC
I think this got missed because we used the determination that if a list wasn't able to be subscribed publically, it shouldn't be on the archives site. I guess we could audit the ones like that and ask the devs which ones they would like added. This one would definately be the case if its been included on gmane. 

Could someone please verify with the council before we add this? Thanks-
Comment 2 Trevor Hardcastle 2006-09-01 14:03:22 UTC
Just a ping on this confirmation? Should I go ahead and add council to the list of online archives?

The site was temporarily behind due to some debugging. It updates hourly normally.
Comment 3 Stefan Schweizer (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2006-09-01 14:11:33 UTC
nice to see some action. No idea if ramereth actually asked them for confirmation. Anyway do you want to ask the old or the new council? ;)
 But it is listed in gmane and public to everyone - also listed in http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/lists.xml I wonder why it has not ben added in the first place.
Comment 4 Stefan Schweizer (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-02-11 11:19:25 UTC
ping?

you can just WONTFIX it if you dont want to fix it.
Comment 5 Mike Doty (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-02-12 08:50:41 UTC
funny, I didn't even know we had a mailing list for council.  As the council guy, I don't think we mind it being archived considering it's already archived on gmane.  give the other council guys a day or 2 to speak up, otherwise do it.

Regarding the speed problems, is it still an issue?
Comment 6 SpanKY gentoo-dev 2007-02-12 10:19:37 UTC
yes, gentoo-council should be available on the public archives
Comment 7 Chris Gianelloni (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-02-12 16:00:43 UTC
I wasn't aware that we had a council list, either.
Comment 8 Diego Elio Pettenò (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-02-12 16:20:59 UTC
I knew about it just incidentally, it hasn't been used in a long time for what I can see, I wonder if we really need it, but archiving it is good to me.
Comment 9 Bryan Østergaard (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-02-12 16:27:08 UTC
Archiving it would definitely be a good idea and we might want to consider cross posting reminders and meetinglogs to it.
Comment 10 Trevor Hardcastle 2007-02-12 21:02:31 UTC
I've added gentoo-council to the lists being archived.

The speed issues were temporary, the site wasn't being repopulated regularly to allow for debugging on the version that was live at the time.
Comment 11 Trevor Hardcastle 2007-02-13 00:43:03 UTC
Turns out that gentoo-council hasn't actually been setup to forward to the archive s user on nuthatch. So while it was in my list of private mailing lists, there's nothing for the archives site to display.

To get this setup on archives.gentoo.org, I would need some assistance to see if we have a copy of the old posts in maildir format, and forwarding if it will be getting any new posts.
Comment 12 Mike Doty (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-02-13 03:57:08 UTC
(In reply to comment #11)
> Turns out that gentoo-council hasn't actually been setup to forward to the
> archive s user on nuthatch. So while it was in my list of private mailing
> lists, there's nothing for the archives site to display.
> 
> To get this setup on archives.gentoo.org, I would need some assistance to see
> if we have a copy of the old posts in maildir format, and forwarding if it will
> be getting any new posts.
> 

sounds like a job for lcars?
Comment 13 Stefan Schweizer (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-03-27 09:58:00 UTC
ping - what is up here? Seems lcars has no interest in helping.

Maybe we can just drop the gentoo-council mailing list if it is that hard to archive it - it is not used anyway these days.

or just leave status quo - gmane is not down that often. Thus we do not need to use gentoo infra to provide a mostly dead mailing list.

INVALID or CANTFIX seem to be fitting resolutions - choose as you wish :)
Comment 14 Bryan Østergaard (RETIRED) gentoo-dev 2007-03-27 10:33:11 UTC
(In reply to comment #13)
> ping - what is up here? Seems lcars has no interest in helping.
> 
> Maybe we can just drop the gentoo-council mailing list if it is that hard to
> archive it - it is not used anyway these days.
> 
> or just leave status quo - gmane is not down that often. Thus we do not need to
> use gentoo infra to provide a mostly dead mailing list.
> 
> INVALID or CANTFIX seem to be fitting resolutions - choose as you wish :)
> 
Stop being an ass please. It might not see any heavy list traffic but we still want it archived on our own infra.
Comment 15 Robin Johnson archtester Gentoo Infrastructure gentoo-dev Security 2007-09-07 07:08:16 UTC
new mail does go to the list, will repopulate with old mail later.