For several days I'm trying to post to the gentoo-osx and gentoo-alt mailing lists. All messages sent are reported to have been delivered successfully to mail.gentoo.org or lists.gentoo.org, but they never show up on the mailing lists themselves. Spam, on the other hand does come in quite frequently, so the lists appear to work somehow. Gmane, marctheaimsgroup, nabble, etc. don't show my posts too. The relevant snippets from my MTA log: 2006-01-20 20:59:30 1F02Py-0005MH-Et <= grobian@gentoo.org H=aphrodite.orakel.ods.org [172.17.2.15] P=esmtp S=1733 id=20060120195929.GB16566@gentoo.org 2006-01-20 20:59:31 1F02Py-0005MH-Et => gentoo-osx@gentoo.org R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp H=mail.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30] 2006-01-20 20:59:31 1F02Py-0005MH-Et -> gentoo-alt@gentoo.org R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp H=mail.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30] 2006-01-20 20:59:31 1F02Py-0005MH-Et Completed 2006-01-20 22:05:51 1F03SB-0005rt-A0 <= grobian@gentoo.org H=aphrodite.orakel.ods.org [172.17.2.15] P=esmtp S=1708 id=20060120210551.GD16566@gentoo.org 2006-01-20 22:05:52 1F03SB-0005rt-A0 => gentoo-osx@lists.gentoo.org R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp H=lists.gentoo.org [140.105.134.102] 2006-01-20 22:05:52 1F03SB-0005rt-A0 -> gentoo-alt@lists.gentoo.org R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp H=lists.gentoo.org [140.105.134.102] 2006-01-20 22:05:52 1F03SB-0005rt-A0 Completed 2006-01-21 22:19:09 1F0Q8b-0001q2-Gx <= grobian@gentoo.org H=aphrodite.orakel.ods.org [172.17.2.15] P=esmtp S=1708 id=20060121211907.GB16900@gentoo.org 2006-01-21 22:19:10 1F0Q8b-0001q2-Gx => gentoo-osx@lists.gentoo.org R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp H=lists.gentoo.org [140.105.134.102] 2006-01-21 22:19:10 1F0Q8b-0001q2-Gx -> gentoo-alt@lists.gentoo.org R=dnslookup T=remote_smtp H=lists.gentoo.org [140.105.134.102] 2006-01-21 22:19:10 1F0Q8b-0001q2-Gx Completed Please have a look at this, I don't get any bounces or what. Jeroen Rovers (jer@gentoo.org) reported the same problem yesterday in IRC. He's also in .nl if that matters.
I need the full headers and body of the messages you are trying to send.
I only have the headers till the first MTA. I asked kito to send this message for me to the respective mailing lists, and his forward hit the lists fine. From grobian@gentoo.org Fri Jan 20 22:05:51 2006 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 22:05:51 +0100 From: Grobian <grobian@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-osx@lists.gentoo.org, gentoo-alt@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Gentoo for Mac OS X Project changes Message-ID: <20060120210551.GD16566@gentoo.org> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-osx@lists.gentoo.org, gentoo-alt@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf8 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/ng-r655 (Darwin 8.4.0, VIM - Vi IMproved 6.2) A new year, means a new start. I took this as a chance to get the Gentoo for Mac OS X Project team a bit cleaned up and poke some people. As a result, three devs have left the OSX team: gongloo j4rg0n JoseJX As representative of the OSX team, I'd like to thank these devs for their contributions, efforts and time devoted to the project. It is sad to see you all have to leave, but on the other hand it's a bad thing to have inactive devs filling the slots for new devs. Speaking of which, we are currently in the process of training a new dev, Emanuele Giaquinta, which we believe to be a valuable addition to our team and Gentoo as a whole. Nick Dimiduk (ndimiduk) hopes to have some time again for us, so we're looking forward to see some activity from him in the next month. On a concluding note, I decided to dish the "Interim" part in my "Leadership". I guess I'll be Team Lead for now as long as there is noone else to do it. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo for Mac OS X Project -- Team Lead
Try not cross posting but keeping only on list in the To: per message.
eh... can you elaborate on that? Kito did the same and his mail arrived immediately. I tried answering on the mail, and luckily it did arrive this time. However, I must say that I have experienced messages just not arriving in the recent past, while they were just sent to the mailing list only. Is there some spamfilter active that looks for multiple recipients or something? Are there spam/blocking measures at all on the mailservers that might kick my m ail to /dev/null? (I'm asking because it's easier for me to get an idea of when I better save my message before sending or not.)
As I said can you please try sending the messages separately keeping one list address per To: header? We have isolated and trying to fix a bug, that's most likely the cause of the problem. We have the fix and hopefully tomorrow it will be installed but I'd still like confirmation that your issue is related to that, so please try sending a test message. It might be that the forward was done differently (I'll check anyway). This is the only thing that might cause this problem you are reporting afaik.
(In reply to comment #4) > I tried answering on the mail, and luckily it did arrive this > time. I'm sorry that I was not clear enough. If I use just one list in the To: field, it arrives fine, e.g. http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.macosx/805
Ok, thx. Then the problem is indeed that one (I got the forward, it wasn't a bounce but a normal forward, so the To: was not a multiple one and that's why it worked). Tomorrow ml software will be patched and I'll close the bug. thx again
lists.gentoo.org ml software updated, please re-open if necessary.
I have the impression that my message that went to gentoo-dev went to /dev/null again. I only sent it to gentoo-dev, nothing fancy this time.
ok, the lists are just very slow. Sorry.
